ND Noq: n0's new QUIC implementation in Rust (www.iroh.computer)
247 points by od0 10 days ago | 39 comments on HN ~lite vlite-2.0
Summary ~lite
Announcement of noq, a new QUIC implementation with multipath and NAT traversal support.
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2026-03-22 19:23 eval_success PSQ evaluated: g-PSQ=0.120 (3 dims) - -
2026-03-22 19:23 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-22 19:13 eval_success Lite evaluated: Neutral (0.00) - -
2026-03-22 19:13 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
reasoning
Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-22 19:13 rater_validation_warn Lite validation warnings for model llama-4-scout-wai: 1W 0R - -
2026-03-22 02:21 eval_success PSQ evaluated: g-PSQ=0.120 (3 dims) - -
2026-03-22 02:21 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) -0.16
2026-03-22 02:04 eval_success Lite evaluated: Neutral (0.00) - -
2026-03-22 02:04 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
reasoning
Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-22 02:04 rater_validation_warn Lite validation warnings for model llama-4-scout-wai: 1W 0R - -
2026-03-22 01:02 eval_success PSQ evaluated: g-PSQ=0.280 (3 dims) - -
2026-03-22 01:02 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) +0.16
2026-03-22 00:58 eval_success Lite evaluated: Neutral (0.00) - -
2026-03-22 00:58 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
reasoning
Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-22 00:58 rater_validation_warn Lite validation warnings for model llama-4-scout-wai: 1W 0R - -
2026-03-21 23:35 eval_success PSQ evaluated: g-PSQ=0.120 (3 dims) - -
2026-03-21 23:35 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-21 23:20 eval_success Lite evaluated: Neutral (0.00) - -
2026-03-21 23:20 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
reasoning
Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 23:20 rater_validation_warn Lite validation warnings for model llama-4-scout-wai: 1W 0R - -
2026-03-21 22:20 eval_success PSQ evaluated: g-PSQ=0.120 (3 dims) - -
2026-03-21 22:20 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) -0.16
2026-03-21 22:00 eval_success Lite evaluated: Neutral (0.00) - -
2026-03-21 22:00 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
reasoning
Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 22:00 rater_validation_warn Lite validation warnings for model llama-4-scout-wai: 1W 0R - -
2026-03-21 20:36 eval_success PSQ evaluated: g-PSQ=0.280 (3 dims) - -
2026-03-21 20:36 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-21 20:18 eval_success Lite evaluated: Neutral (0.00) - -
2026-03-21 20:18 rater_validation_warn Lite validation warnings for model llama-4-scout-wai: 1W 0R - -
2026-03-21 20:18 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
reasoning
Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 17:16 eval_success PSQ evaluated: g-PSQ=0.280 (3 dims) - -
2026-03-21 17:16 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) +0.16
2026-03-21 17:10 eval_success Lite evaluated: Neutral (0.00) - -
2026-03-21 17:10 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
reasoning
Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 16:34 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-21 16:29 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 15:52 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-21 15:50 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 15:11 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 15:11 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-21 14:30 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 14:28 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-21 13:47 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 13:44 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-21 13:10 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 13:04 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-21 12:28 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 12:22 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-21 11:52 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 11:44 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-21 11:13 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-21 11:05 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-21 10:32 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 10:21 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-21 09:49 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 09:39 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-21 09:10 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 09:00 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-21 08:33 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 08:17 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-21 07:54 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 07:36 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-21 07:15 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 06:55 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-21 06:37 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 06:17 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-21 06:00 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 05:36 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-21 05:24 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 04:56 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-21 04:45 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 04:17 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) -0.16
2026-03-21 04:09 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 03:39 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-21 03:30 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 02:59 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-21 02:53 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 02:19 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) +0.16
2026-03-21 02:16 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 01:39 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-21 01:36 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 00:45 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-21 00:44 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) -0.16
2026-03-20 23:43 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-20 23:40 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-20 23:01 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 22:59 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-20 21:46 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-20 21:40 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-20 21:08 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-20 21:02 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) +0.16
2026-03-20 20:33 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 20:25 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-20 19:58 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 19:49 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) -0.16
2026-03-20 19:23 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 18:39 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-20 18:12 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 18:04 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) +0.16
2026-03-20 17:21 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 17:10 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) -0.16
2026-03-20 16:08 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-20 15:54 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) +0.16
2026-03-20 15:28 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-20 15:10 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) -0.16
2026-03-20 14:49 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 14:32 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-20 14:11 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-20 13:57 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-20 13:38 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 13:22 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-20 13:05 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 12:45 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-20 12:24 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 12:02 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-20 11:46 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 11:26 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) +0.16
2026-03-20 11:08 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 10:47 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) -0.16
2026-03-20 10:29 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 10:09 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-20 09:50 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 09:30 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) +0.16
2026-03-20 09:12 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 08:52 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-20 08:34 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 08:12 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-20 07:52 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 07:32 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) -0.16
2026-03-20 07:12 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 06:50 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) +0.16
2026-03-20 06:32 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 06:12 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) -0.16
2026-03-20 05:56 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 05:37 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-20 05:21 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 05:02 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) +0.16
2026-03-20 04:47 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 04:26 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-20 04:11 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 03:51 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-20 03:36 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 03:15 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-20 03:01 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 02:32 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) -0.16
2026-03-20 02:22 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 01:57 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) +0.16
2026-03-20 01:53 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 01:38 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-20 01:35 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-20 00:54 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-20 00:53 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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2026-03-20 00:15 eval Evaluated by llama-3.3-70b-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive)
2026-03-20 00:03 eval Evaluated by llama-3.3-70b-wai: 0.00 (Neutral)
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2026-03-19 23:40 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-19 23:39 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-19 23:01 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) -0.16
2026-03-19 23:00 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-19 22:07 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive) +0.16
2026-03-19 22:06 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-19 20:52 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) -0.16
2026-03-19 20:51 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion
2026-03-19 19:34 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.28 (Mild positive)
2026-03-19 19:34 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: 0.00 (Neutral)
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Technical blog post about QUIC implementation in Rust, no human rights discussion