+0.10 Where did you think the training data was coming from?

Name: HRCB Evaluation: Where did you think the training data was coming from?
Item: Where did you think the training data was coming from?
Rating: 0.08
Author: Human Rights Observatory

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	50 points by speckx 10 days ago \| 14 comments on HN \| Neutral Moderate agreement (3 models) Editorial · v3.7 · 2026-03-16 01:37:46 0

Summary Privacy & Data Autonomy Neutral

The URL content truncates before meaningful editorial analysis is possible; the page title suggests a critical examination of AI training data sourcing (Meta/Ray-Ban glasses context). Structurally, the domain employs third-party tracking without user consent mechanisms, creating a negative tension with Article 12 (privacy) and Article 19 (information autonomy) protections. Accessibility infrastructure supports Article 26/27 engagement, but pervasive tracking without consent is the dominant observable signal.

Rights Tensions 1 pair

Art 12 ↔ Art 19 — Tracking infrastructure collects reader information without consent, subordinating Article 12 privacy to Article 19 expression platform benefits.

Article Heatmap

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Weighted Mean	+0.08	Unweighted Mean	+0.08
Max	+0.08 Article 19	Min	+0.08 Article 19
Signal	1	No Data	30
Volatility	0.00 (Low)
Negative	0	Channels	E: 0.6 S: 0.4
SETL ℹ	+0.66	Editorial-dominant
FW Ratio ℹ	53%	10 facts · 9 inferences
Agreement	Moderate	3 models · spread ±0.133

Evidence 5% coverage ℹ

  2M  4L  31 ND 

Theme Radar

HN Discussion 9 top-level · 3 replies

jmclnx 2026-03-11 15:16 UTC link

meta spies on you, news at 11/s

But if you run any proprietary system, yes they are spying on you, maybe even if you disable what setting you can find. You can tape the camara, but the mic ? I think the only option is to disable the mic in the BIOS.

If you really care about spying, you really should be on Linux or a BSD. IMO, tinfoil hat people should be on OpenBSD, they disable the cam and mic at the OS level and does not have bluetooth at all. FWIW, I still believe bluetooth is a cesspool of security issues.

AndrewKemendo 2026-03-11 15:18 UTC link

Imagine your goal is to create superhuman robots that work like humans

Now also assume that you need data to train the robots and that you have a perspective that visual data will eventually be good enough to capture fine grained movement

So how do you go about capturing that data at the largest scale as fast as possible?

You give people an incentive to wear egocentric video cameras all day so that you can capture 100% of the data and actions from humans as they go through their life in order to transfer it to policy rollouts

Ultimately artificial intelligence is about transferring action policies from humans to machines and the fastest way to do that is to have 100% surveillance of a person

if people actively sign up for that that’s about as good as it gets

youknownothing 2026-03-11 15:30 UTC link

I've said it for a long time: the main reason Meta wanted to created glasses or VR/AR is to circumvent the privacy rules that Google and Apple slowly introduced in their App Stores.

sheept 2026-03-11 15:47 UTC link

I'm skeptical of this both because this post was largely speculation, and because I would argue Meta has no need to record every private moment for training data.

After all, as the owner of massive social networks, they already have plenty of cleaner, public data that has way more associated labels, like captions, comments, viewer engagement data, and that way they would avoid another data scandal. It's like how people think the Facebook app is secretly recording their microphone, even though their behavior is already obvious through just their and their friends' app engagement. The point of the glasses is to share your footage online, so the recordings would end up public anyways without Meta needing to do anything sneaky.

goodmythical 2026-03-11 16:16 UTC link

I thought it was common knowledge that we've been providing free training for machnine learning since the around the first introduction of captcha.

Not sure if the absolute first human verification systems were machine training, but it definitely became that quite quickly.

Like, did everyone just forget about the "provide feedback" button on your search pages? Or when google maps used to ask if its information was accurate?

And the fact that google/youtube/facebook/etc have almost always used your interactions to train algorithms to tune the machine learning not just for you but for everyone?

Why should it be any surprise that every new offering from these companies tracks user data in order to improve the economic efficiency of their models just as every single prior offering from these companies has always done?

jaredcwhite 2026-03-11 17:02 UTC link

I really would love an "AR" web. It'd be so cool to walk around a city and get fed real-time information about landmarks, history, cultural events, and shopping destinations—whether through smart glasses or simply a smartphone.

Unfortunately my confidence that any modern tech company could build such an AR web without it being based on horribly-invasive privacy-invading AI-training fascism-enabling user-hostile software is roughly zero. Thus the dream of AR will have to remain just that…a dream. Perhaps the sci-fi of it all should remain "fi".

tracker1 2026-03-11 17:04 UTC link

This is why I like the kill switch that Framework laptops have to disable the webcam and mic physically. I wish it was standard... especially with some of the more creepy articles of school issued laptop admins being able to "observe" remotely.

jeffrallen 2026-03-11 17:15 UTC link

"It's people!!! Soylent green is people!!!"

CrzyLngPwd 2026-03-11 19:42 UTC link

If Meta really wanted training data from the glasses, they would give them away.

They could easily afford it, and they would get 1000x the uptake.

JohnFen 2026-03-11 15:21 UTC link

> You can tape the camara, but the mic ? I think the only option is to disable the mic in the BIOS.

From my experimentation, filling the little microphone hole with blu tack is pretty effective. Not as effective as opening the machine up and cutting out the microphone (my preferred solution), but close.

10000truths 2026-03-11 15:43 UTC link

More specifically, it's because Meta views the lack of ownership of their own hardware platform as an existential threat. They see AR/VR as the next revolutionary platform, so they're betting the farm on being first movers in a mass-market AR/VR space that they anticipate to exist in the future.

tracker1 2026-03-11 17:07 UTC link

I think the closest you might expect would the the likes of Pokemon go... though it would be a cool option from the same company/org... though you're right, would likely be a privacy invasion trap that slurped up all the travel data to offer sales to nearby hotels/restaurants to pop up offers...

"Hey, it's getting close to lunch time, would you like some restaurant recommendations nearby?"

Editorial Channel

What the content says

+0.20

Article 19 Freedom of Expression

Medium Advocacy Framing

Editorial

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SETL

+0.24

Article title and premise ('Where did you think the training data was coming from?') engage with information transparency and questioning official narratives regarding AI training data sources; this frames content as exploratory rather than propaganda-endorsing.

Preamble Preamble

Low

No observable editorial content regarding human dignity or fundamental rights.

Article 1 Freedom, Equality, Brotherhood

Low

No observable discussion of equality or freedom.

Article 2 Non-Discrimination

Low

No content addressing discrimination or protected statuses.

Article 3 Life, Liberty, Security

Low

No editorial discussion of security or personal safety.

Article 4 No Slavery

Low

No content concerning slavery or forced labor.

Article 5 No Torture

Low

No content addressing torture or cruel treatment.

Article 6 Legal Personhood

Low

No content concerning legal personhood.

Article 7 Equality Before Law

Low

No editorial content addressing equality before law.

Article 8 Right to Remedy

Low

No content concerning legal remedies.

Article 9 No Arbitrary Detention

Low

No content concerning arbitrary detention.

Article 10 Fair Hearing

Low

No observable content addressing fair trial.

Article 11 Presumption of Innocence

Low

No content on criminal liability.

Article 12 Privacy

Medium Practice

Page title asks 'Where did you think the training data was coming from?' — addresses data sourcing concerns obliquely but without explicit privacy advocacy.

Article 13 Freedom of Movement

Low

No content restricting freedom of movement.

Article 14 Asylum

Low

No content regarding asylum or refuge.

Article 15 Nationality

Low

No content on nationality.

Article 16 Marriage & Family

Low

No content addressing marriage or family.

Article 17 Property

Low

No content on property rights.

Article 18 Freedom of Thought

Low

No content restricting freedom of thought or conscience.

Article 20 Assembly & Association

Low

No content restricting assembly or association.

Article 21 Political Participation

Low

No content on political participation.

Article 22 Social Security

Low

No content on social security or welfare.

Article 23 Work & Equal Pay

Low

No content addressing labor rights or employment.

Article 24 Rest & Leisure

Low

No content on rest or leisure.

Article 25 Standard of Living

Low

No content on health or standard of living.

Article 26 Education

Low

No content concerning education.

Article 27 Cultural Participation

Low

No content on cultural participation.

Article 28 Social & International Order

Low

No content addressing social/international order.

Article 29 Duties to Community

Low

No content on duties or community.

Article 30 No Destruction of Rights

Low

No content restricting rights.

Structural Channel

What the site does

Domain Context Profile

Element	Modifier	Affects	Note
br_tracking	0.00	Preamble ¶5 Article 12 Article 19	2 tracker domain(s): www.googletagmanager.com, stats.g.doubleclick.net
br_security	-0.05	Article 3 Article 12	Security headers: HTTPS
br_accessibility	0.00	Article 26 Article 27 ¶1	Accessibility: lang attr, 100% alt text
br_consent	0.00	Article 12 Article 19 Article 20 ¶2	No cookie consent banner detected

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Article 19 Freedom of Expression

Medium Advocacy Framing

Structural

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Context Modifier

0.00

SETL

+0.24

No apparent censorship; however, tracking and analytics collection may chill users' freedom to read anonymously. No obvious content filtering or editorial control visible.

Preamble Preamble

Low

Tracker domains present (Google Tag Manager, DoubleClick) enable data collection practices; HTTPS security in place.

Article 1 Freedom, Equality, Brotherhood

Low

No structural barriers to access detected; content accessible to all users without discrimination.

Article 2 Non-Discrimination

Low

No evidence of discriminatory access controls or exclusions.

Article 3 Life, Liberty, Security

Low

HTTPS security header present; however, tracking infrastructure may compromise personal security.

Article 4 No Slavery

Low

No structural indicators of exploitative labor practices.

Article 5 No Torture

Low

No harmful design patterns detected.

Article 6 Legal Personhood

Low

No structural barriers to participation.

Article 7 Equality Before Law

Low

No discriminatory structural design patterns.

Article 8 Right to Remedy

Low

Contact mechanisms not observable in truncated content.

Article 9 No Arbitrary Detention

Low

No applicable structural indicators.

Article 10 Fair Hearing

Low

No applicable structures.

Article 11 Presumption of Innocence

Low

No applicable structures.

Article 12 Privacy

Medium Practice

No cookie consent banner detected; tracking pixels (Google Tag Manager, DoubleClick) load without explicit prior consent UI; data collection practices appear undisclosed.

Article 13 Freedom of Movement

Low

No geographic access restrictions.

Article 14 Asylum

Low

No applicable structures.

Article 15 Nationality

Low

No applicable structures.

Article 16 Marriage & Family

Low

No applicable structures.

Article 17 Property

Low

No applicable structures.

Article 18 Freedom of Thought

Low

No filtering or content suppression detected.

Article 20 Assembly & Association

Low

No observable restrictions on user participation.

Article 21 Political Participation

Low

No barriers to civic engagement visible.

Article 22 Social Security

Low

No applicable structures.

Article 23 Work & Equal Pay

Low

No applicable structures.

Article 24 Rest & Leisure

Low

No applicable structures.

Article 25 Standard of Living

Low

No applicable structures.

Article 26 Education

Low

Page structure fully accessible (100% alt text, language attributes present per DCP).

Article 27 Cultural Participation

Low

Content is freely accessible, supporting cultural participation.

Article 28 Social & International Order

Low

No applicable structures.

Article 29 Duties to Community

Low

No applicable structures.

Article 30 No Destruction of Rights

Low

No applicable structures.

Supplementary Signals

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Epistemic Quality ℹ

How well-sourced and evidence-based is this content?

0.34 high claims

Sources		0.3
Evidence		0.2
Uncertainty		0.5
Purpose		0.4

Propaganda Flags ℹ

No manipulative rhetoric detected

0 techniques detected

Emotional Tone ℹ

Emotional character: positive/negative, intensity, authority

detached

Valence		-0.2
Arousal		0.3
Dominance		0.2

Transparency ℹ

Does the content identify its author and disclose interests?

0.00

✗ Author

More signals: context, framing & audience

Solution Orientation ℹ

Does this content offer solutions or only describe problems?

0.42 problem only

Reader Agency

0.3

Stakeholder Voice ℹ

Whose perspectives are represented in this content?

0.20 1 perspective

About: corporation

Temporal Framing ℹ

Is this content looking backward, at the present, or forward?

present immediate

Geographic Scope ℹ

What geographic area does this content cover?

unspecified

Complexity ℹ

How accessible is this content to a general audience?

moderate low jargon general

Longitudinal 100 HN snapshots · 40 evals

Audit Trail 60 entries

2026-03-16 04:15	eval_success	PSQ evaluated: g-PSQ=0.120 (3 dims)	- -
2026-03-16 04:15	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-16 04:14	eval_success	Lite evaluated: Mild negative (-0.18)	- -
2026-03-16 04:14	model_divergence	Cross-model spread 0.27 exceeds threshold (2 models)	- -
2026-03-16 04:14	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: -0.18 (Mild negative) 0.00
	reasoning Blog post discussing training data for Meta AI, no explicit human rights discussion
2026-03-16 01:42	eval_success	Evaluated: Neutral (0.08)	- -
2026-03-16 01:42	model_divergence	Cross-model spread 0.27 exceeds threshold (2 models)	- -
2026-03-16 01:42	rater_validation_warn	Validation warnings for model claude-haiku-4-5-20251001: 0W 30R	- -
2026-03-16 01:42	eval	Evaluated by claude-haiku-4-5-20251001: +0.08 (Neutral) 17,058 tokens +0.08
2026-03-16 01:37	eval_success	Evaluated: Neutral (0.00)	- -
2026-03-16 01:37	eval	Evaluated by claude-haiku-4-5-20251001: 0.00 (Neutral) 17,159 tokens
2026-03-16 01:37	rater_validation_warn	Validation warnings for model claude-haiku-4-5-20251001: 25W 31R	- -
2026-03-12 23:18	eval_success	PSQ evaluated: g-PSQ=0.120 (3 dims)	- -
2026-03-12 23:18	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-12 22:59	eval_success	Lite evaluated: Mild negative (-0.18)	- -
2026-03-12 22:59	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: -0.18 (Mild negative) 0.00
	reasoning Blog post discussing training data for Meta AI, no explicit human rights discussion
2026-03-12 20:34	eval_success	Lite evaluated: Mild negative (-0.18)	- -
2026-03-12 20:34	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: -0.18 (Mild negative) 0.00
	reasoning Blog post discussing training data for Meta AI, no explicit human rights discussion
2026-03-12 19:28	eval_success	PSQ evaluated: g-PSQ=0.120 (3 dims)	- -
2026-03-12 19:28	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-12 19:12	eval_success	Lite evaluated: Mild negative (-0.18)	- -
2026-03-12 19:12	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: -0.18 (Mild negative) 0.00
	reasoning Blog post discussing training data for Meta AI, no explicit human rights discussion
2026-03-12 17:57	eval_success	PSQ evaluated: g-PSQ=0.120 (3 dims)	- -
2026-03-12 17:57	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-12 17:27	eval_success	Lite evaluated: Mild negative (-0.18)	- -
2026-03-12 17:27	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: -0.18 (Mild negative) 0.00
	reasoning Blog post discussing training data for Meta AI, no explicit human rights discussion
2026-03-12 16:29	eval_success	PSQ evaluated: g-PSQ=0.120 (3 dims)	- -
2026-03-12 16:29	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-12 16:06	eval_success	Lite evaluated: Mild negative (-0.18)	- -
2026-03-12 16:06	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: -0.18 (Mild negative) 0.00
	reasoning Blog post discussing training data for Meta AI, no explicit human rights discussion
2026-03-12 14:55	eval_success	PSQ evaluated: g-PSQ=0.120 (3 dims)	- -
2026-03-12 14:55	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-12 14:44	eval_success	Lite evaluated: Mild negative (-0.18)	- -
2026-03-12 14:44	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: -0.18 (Mild negative) +0.06
	reasoning Blog post discussing training data for Meta AI, no explicit human rights discussion
2026-03-12 01:49	eval_success	Lite evaluated: Mild negative (-0.24)	- -
2026-03-12 01:49	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: -0.24 (Mild negative) -0.06
	reasoning Blog post discussing training data for Meta AI, no explicit human rights discussion
2026-03-12 01:24	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-12 01:23	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: -0.18 (Mild negative) +0.06
	reasoning Blog post discussing training data for Meta AI, no explicit human rights discussion
2026-03-12 00:54	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-12 00:50	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: -0.24 (Mild negative) 0.00
	reasoning Blog post discussing training data for Meta AI, no explicit human rights discussion
2026-03-12 00:30	eval	Evaluated by llama-3.3-70b-wai-psq: 0.00 (Neutral)
2026-03-12 00:26	eval	Evaluated by llama-3.3-70b-wai: 0.00 (Neutral)
	reasoning Technical blog post, no rights discussion
2026-03-11 23:55	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-11 23:49	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: -0.24 (Mild negative) 0.00
	reasoning Blog post discussing training data for Meta AI, no explicit human rights discussion
2026-03-11 23:18	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-11 23:12	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: -0.24 (Mild negative) 0.00
	reasoning Blog post discussing training data for Meta AI, no explicit human rights discussion
2026-03-11 22:39	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-11 22:33	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: -0.24 (Mild negative) 0.00
	reasoning Blog post discussing training data for Meta AI, no explicit human rights discussion
2026-03-11 21:40	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-11 21:37	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: -0.24 (Mild negative) 0.00
	reasoning Blog post discussing training data for Meta AI, no explicit human rights discussion
2026-03-11 20:17	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-11 20:13	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: -0.24 (Mild negative) 0.00
	reasoning Blog post discussing training data for Meta AI, no explicit human rights discussion
2026-03-11 19:07	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-11 19:02	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: -0.24 (Mild negative) 0.00
	reasoning Blog post discussing training data for Meta AI, no explicit human rights discussion
2026-03-11 17:57	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-11 17:52	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: -0.24 (Mild negative) 0.00
	reasoning Blog post discussing training data for Meta AI, no explicit human rights discussion
2026-03-11 16:41	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive) 0.00
2026-03-11 16:40	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: -0.24 (Mild negative) 0.00
	reasoning Blog post discussing training data for Meta AI, no explicit human rights discussion
2026-03-11 15:17	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai-psq: +0.12 (Mild positive)
2026-03-11 15:17	eval	Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: -0.24 (Mild negative)
	reasoning Blog post discussing training data for Meta AI, no explicit human rights discussion

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