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HN Discussion 18 top-level · 31 replies
mentalgear 2026-02-28 17:36 UTC link
"On the very same day that Altman offered public support to Amodei [CEO of Anthropic], he signed a deal to take away Amodei’s business, with a deal that wasn’t all that different. You can’t get more Altman than that."
mentalgear 2026-02-28 17:50 UTC link
PS: If openly bribing a crony gov to cancel your competitor is now the de-facto standard of making business in the US, I don't see how any rational investor could still see US companies as a secure investment. When the rule of law degrades into pay-to-play politics, the inevitable result is a mass exodus of both capital and top-tier talent.
Ifkaluva 2026-02-28 18:47 UTC link
25M isn’t even that much money. Not only are they whores, they’re cheap whores.
ltpajh 2026-02-28 18:54 UTC link
To summarize all nepotism indicators posted here by various people:

- The Kushner family has invested in OpenAI.

- OpenAI uses Oracle cloud. Ellison is close to Trump.

- Sheikh Tahnoon bin Zayed Al Nahyan (the “spy sheikh") has invested $500 million in World Liberty and is also invested in OpenAI.

- Altman is a protege of Thiel, whose Palantir integrates the external AI at the Pentagon.

- The scam occurs right before the Iran war starts. The Groq sale scam (where Trump Jr.'s 1789 Capital bought shares just months before the sale) occurred right before Christmas. So both were timed to be overshadowed by larger events or holidays.

seydor 2026-02-28 20:08 UTC link
Such high levels of corruption are not usually called "scam"
juleiie 2026-02-28 20:38 UTC link
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity.

This HST quote seems severely outdated by now. They have already been caught, committed all the sins of stupidity and some more. All of it to the clapping mob of people who yearn for some kind of social revenge.

And it’s happening everywhere these last years.

Who could possibly know we have so many wife beaters?

addandsubtract 2026-02-28 21:07 UTC link
This is only a surprise to HN, because all the other threads about the corrupt US regime have been flagged before. I guess now is a good time as any to start paying attention. Who would've thought that attention is all you need?
Kim_Bruning 2026-02-28 21:11 UTC link
This is one of the few interpretations that make sense of this timeline at this time. I'd be cautious since it's still speculation. But discovery is going to be interesting.
losvedir 2026-02-28 22:04 UTC link
It's interesting this thread is all about how the deal is basically the same therefore corruption. And the other thread is all about how it's subtly different therefore OpenAI has no model red lines.

I'd love to hear if Anthropic actually would accept this deal, if offered.

runlevel1 2026-03-01 00:22 UTC link
How disappointing it is to see how easily some leaders in our industry abandon their principles, and how cheaply they sell out their fellow man.

The tech industry was never perfect. It was never a charity. But there was a time, several years ago now, when people were more driven to build things that delighted others.

underlipton 2026-03-01 03:26 UTC link
This is the guy you want controlling the technology that will determine humanity's future?
jazzpush2 2026-03-01 03:28 UTC link
Just cancelled my chatgpt subscription.
kazinator 2026-03-01 04:16 UTC link
> It’s one thing for the government to reject Anthropic’s terms—and entirely another to banish them permanently and, absurdly and punitively declare them a supply chain risk. Worse, they did it in favor of someone else who took pretty similar terms and happened to have given more campaign contributions.

It's just a variation on Snowball being chased off Animal Farm.

abraxas 2026-03-01 05:04 UTC link
The oligarchic system is not only poisonous to economic growth but also incredibly hard to dislodge. Most of you are American and likely thinking that this is an aberration that will be rectified come next election cycle but I believe you are going to get disappointed. People who scaled the government buildings in a coup attempt are not going to give up power willingly. And now they have coerced your oligarchs to come to their side and those who fail the loyalty test like Amodei are getting punished. You are not approaching Russia style kleptocracy. You're already there.
moab 2026-03-01 05:27 UTC link
How does Brockman sleep at night? These guys used to seem like standup ethical guys. It seems no amount of intellectualism is enough to ward off the poison of wealth.
jatora 2026-03-01 05:40 UTC link
Did everyone forget Anthropic is already partnered with Palantir?
braza 2026-03-01 06:53 UTC link
I cannot take Gary seriously anymore since it's an article about deep learning hitting a wall [1].

[1] - https://nautil.us/deep-learning-is-hitting-a-wall-238440/

agentifysh 2026-03-01 07:14 UTC link
I just can't take Gary seriously anymore after reading this thread:

https://x.com/alfcnz/status/1991210361769320820

dragonwriter 2026-02-28 17:56 UTC link
> If openly bribing a crony gov to cancel your competitor is now the de-facto standard of making business in the US

It very clearly is, the present AI instance is far from the only recent case.

> I don't see how any rational investor could still see US companies as a secure investment.

They evaluate the propensity and ability to profitably engage in open corruption the same as they evaluate other capacities of the company. “Secure” isn't a binary category, and the risk here is much like any other risk.

> When the rule of law degrades into pay-to-play politics, the inevitable result is a mass exodus of both capital and top-tier talent.

That is the expected result of increasing perceived risk. yes, probably one of those “slowly and then all at once” things.

jfengel 2026-02-28 18:39 UTC link
It's bizarre seeing the outright bribery.

A lot of things that people call "bribery" is really just ensuring that your preferred candidate gets in office. You couldn't give money directly to the candidate for personal use. Donations went to the campaign of the guy who already agreed with you. The FEC used to take a dim view of outright pay-for-service, even dressed up.

This is new. And now people need to decide how they feel about that. They get one chance to say "no, that's not how we do things." Even if the administration suffers a blow this November, if they hear that this is mostly acceptable to their base, it will be what every politician does from here on.

NetOpWibby 2026-02-28 19:03 UTC link
Sweet, excellent idea for the government to tie itself to a bubble.

If it doesn't pop while Trump's in office, his successor will inherit this mess, bubble will pop, and that person will have to deal with managing the fallout.

The time to lock-in gainful employment is now (if you can).

awakeasleep 2026-02-28 19:05 UTC link
It’s a lot of money for a “what have you done for me lately?” scenario

Like, this is opex

imjonse 2026-02-28 19:22 UTC link
He's young, he's got enough time to outdo himself.
Cyphase 2026-02-28 20:06 UTC link
Quite tangential, but this reminded me of a line from Human Target:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6tqvzt?start=872&mute=fal...

"I'm sorry, you... You think I'm a prostitute?"

looks at offered cash

"A $40 prostitute?"

wizardforhire 2026-02-28 20:25 UTC link
I’ve always heard it called “business as usual”
coldtea 2026-02-28 20:28 UTC link
>I don't see how any rational investor could still see US companies as a secure investment.

Investors just care for the returns. As long as they can identify and bet on the side doing the bribing, they're fine...

ilamont 2026-02-28 20:31 UTC link
> When the rule of law degrades into pay-to-play politics, the inevitable result is a mass exodus of both capital and top-tier talent.

No, it's not inevitable. What you've described is the way a lot of authoritarian states work, such as China. China attracts plenty of capital and external talent, including people from other countries such as Taiwan and the United States. You have be all-in on the CCP's rules, though.

Vietnam operates in a similar way. Untold billions of FDI in the past 20 years from Japan, the U.S. and China. Talk with top executives there, and you'll frequently find close connections or family ties with leaders in Hanoi.

pjc50 2026-02-28 20:32 UTC link
Don't overlook the media consolidation under Bari Weiss.
isoprophlex 2026-02-28 20:54 UTC link
Not a week goes by without me thinking "what would HST have made of THIS fresh bullshit, if he were alive today"
tombert 2026-02-28 21:09 UTC link
I've said it a million times, but I'll repeat it.

There are a lot of conspiracy nuts like Alex Jones, and the amusing thing to me is that there is a conspiracy of elites who are exerting large amounts of unelected control of the government, and who are actively working to keep you down to enrich themselves, and it's not even a secret.

We call these people "billionaires", and at this point they don't even bother hiding it. Trump had a streamlined bribery system with his stupid cryptocurrency and being in charge of a publicly traded company while in office, Musk bought his way in so he could be in charge of a new department and start defunding any organization that has ever tried to investigate him, and there are hundreds of examples.

Instead morons like Alex Jones will go on the radio and blame lizards or something, and then his listeners will take that and then start blaming Jews or Mexicans, while cheering on the actual conspiracy that's making their lives terrible.

zuminator 2026-02-28 21:30 UTC link
The scam part is the fiction perpetrated on the American public that there was a bona fide dispute with Anthropic.
ivan_gammel 2026-02-28 21:35 UTC link
This interpretation is kinda obvious to anyone who has seen similar schemes in other countries. It‘s done almost by the book, except there‘s no criminal case against Anthropic management or shareholders, because USA is not yet there.
stinkbeetle 2026-02-28 21:56 UTC link
When you say "HN", do you mean you? Who else was surprised? The place is full of people constantly commenting about how bad the US is, how corrupt the government is, how terrible CEOs (particularly Altman) are, late stage capitalism, etc., etc.
m_ke 2026-02-28 22:00 UTC link
It's more than that, supposedly Sama donated another 25mil through a PAC.

I'm sure the Crypto AI Czar (David Sacks) being a major Anthropic hater didn't hurt either

Or that Kushner put a billion in OpenAI recently

EDIT: wow they got in at a huge discount too and OpenAI bought stake in Thrive...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/thrive-capital-bought-shares-in...

https://openai.com/index/thrive-holdings/

caaqil 2026-02-28 23:00 UTC link
I like to think that you wrote this whole comment to sneak the paper title instead of it being an apt pun/nod.
burnt-resistor 2026-03-01 01:27 UTC link
And JD Vance is Thiel's boy.
conception 2026-03-01 01:28 UTC link
It’s corruption and a different deal.
coliveira 2026-03-01 02:38 UTC link
That was always a lie. Gates became the richest pedo in the world building a monopoly of bad software and destroying other people's businesses. Since then things only got worse.
dandellion 2026-03-01 03:34 UTC link
> will determine humanity's future

According to him. These are same people that said we'd have self driving cars by 2017. That we'd be able to buy things with BitCoin. But here we are, it's 2026 and all of it has turned out to be a lot less revolutionary and world changing than advertised. We're just barely getting the internet as it was advertised before the dot com bubble, and to be honest, it kinda sucks. AI can do some cool stuff, but I'm very sceptical about all the hype.

gwerbin 2026-03-01 03:38 UTC link
It's more about loyalty than about any particular dollar amount. It's a tribute moreso than a bribe.
arttaboi 2026-03-01 03:58 UTC link
That's a wrong move I guess (you willingly take pain but no one else suffers). The right one would be to get an Anthropic subscription. And an even better one would be to donate to the Democrats.
arttaboi 2026-03-01 04:02 UTC link
Modern spin: In a closed society where everybody is guilty, the only crime is not being in power.
mlinhares 2026-03-01 04:39 UTC link
We're still here mostly because these are the dollar store fascists. If they were really competent this would be the fourth reich already by now and all brown people would have been exterminated in concentration camps.
nutthugger 2026-03-01 05:29 UTC link
(standup that's for sure)
jatora 2026-03-01 05:36 UTC link
Pretty leftist take. Weird. You're halfway there. It's an oligarchy through and through, run by professional fund raisers, grifters, and sociopaths - regardless of left/right. Are you aware of how many of the people who stormed the capital were FBI plants? It's absolute insanity and the whole left/right paradigm is nothing but a reality TV show. Meanwhile corporate america continues chugging along.
CamperBob2 2026-03-01 07:20 UTC link
LOL. "I often remind clowns (his word) of my PhD from MIT when I was 23, my tenure at NYU 30 (sic), my six books, publications in Science and Nature, or the machine learning company that I founded and sold to Uber. Sometimes I mention my Senate testimony."

He should get together with Musk and commiserate about how worldly success is no substitute for adoration on Twitter.

That said, I doubt he's wrong about the nature of this debacle. A thousand years from now, the ghosts of Altman and Amodei are still going to wander the earth in search of ways to dunk on each other.

Aeolun 2026-03-01 07:20 UTC link
> I don't see how any rational investor could still see US companies as a secure investment

I the problem is that from the companies’s side you just have a whole country to exploit, so I’m fairly certain the investments still work.

dongguanxianhao 2026-03-01 07:34 UTC link
With a bottle of fentonol in his mouth.
vasco 2026-03-01 07:44 UTC link
It's the other way around, people who are good people will "drop" from the race way before they get to this stage.

So it's more that only psychopaths will continue to push up the mountain when they already have many hundreds of lifetimes worth of wealth. Imagine being in that situation and still wanting to be involved in backstabbing power games rather than enjoy time with your kids.

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2026-02-28 22:50 eval Evaluated by llama-3.3-70b-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
reasoning
Editorial neutral stance
2026-02-28 22:08 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: +0.20 (Mild positive) 0.00
reasoning
Editorial criticizing AI business deal, no explicit rights stance
2026-02-28 22:04 eval Evaluated by llama-3.3-70b-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
reasoning
Editorial neutral stance
2026-02-28 21:23 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: +0.20 (Mild positive) 0.00
reasoning
Editorial criticizing AI business deal, no explicit rights stance
2026-02-28 21:17 eval Evaluated by llama-3.3-70b-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
reasoning
Editorial neutral stance
2026-02-28 20:30 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: +0.20 (Mild positive) 0.00
reasoning
Editorial criticizing AI business deal, no explicit rights stance
2026-02-28 20:26 eval Evaluated by llama-3.3-70b-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
reasoning
Editorial neutral stance
2026-02-28 20:25 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: +0.20 (Mild positive) 0.00
reasoning
Editorial criticizing AI business deal, no explicit rights stance
2026-02-28 19:42 eval Evaluated by llama-3.3-70b-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
reasoning
Editorial neutral stance
2026-02-28 19:40 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: +0.20 (Mild positive) 0.00
reasoning
Editorial criticizing AI business deal, no explicit rights stance
2026-02-28 19:37 eval Evaluated by llama-3.3-70b-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
reasoning
Editorial neutral stance
2026-02-28 18:57 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: +0.20 (Mild positive) 0.00
reasoning
Editorial criticizing AI business deal, no explicit rights stance
2026-02-28 18:54 eval Evaluated by llama-3.3-70b-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
reasoning
Editorial neutral stance
2026-02-28 18:25 eval Evaluated by llama-3.3-70b-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
reasoning
Editorial neutral stance
2026-02-28 18:24 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: +0.20 (Mild positive) 0.00
reasoning
Editorial criticizing AI business deal, no explicit rights stance
2026-02-28 18:20 eval Evaluated by llama-3.3-70b-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
reasoning
Editorial neutral stance
2026-02-28 18:19 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: +0.20 (Mild positive) 0.00
reasoning
Editorial criticizing AI business deal, no explicit rights stance
2026-02-28 17:55 eval Evaluated by llama-3.3-70b-wai: 0.00 (Neutral) 0.00
reasoning
Editorial neutral stance
2026-02-28 17:52 eval Evaluated by llama-4-scout-wai: +0.20 (Mild positive)
reasoning
Editorial criticizing AI business deal, no explicit rights stance
2026-02-28 17:50 eval Evaluated by llama-3.3-70b-wai: 0.00 (Neutral)
reasoning
Editorial neutral stance