I'm actually quite (pleasantly) surprised that Facebook provides this information, and somewhat curious why the author is angry at them rather than "Lan Tim 2".

When there are $billions$ of dollars at stake for this type of information, you can guarantee there will be many companies attacking this problem.

Therefore, not to be a pessimist, but if you think that 1) using a fake cell number on Facebook is going to help or that 2) there aren't services like Google doing this already, potentially with just as good match rates as Facebook, or 3) that using Firefox + adblock is all you need, then you're going to be constantly plugging holes in a leaking boat.

Google Chromecast shares activity with facebook!

Do I read this correctly that a restaurant will just dump its complete visitor log to FB and then let FB "sort it out".

Meaning that FB gets to vacuum the info on everyone including those without FB accounts?

"It's just offline conversion events being uploaded so you'd stop getting these ads, or so they can market to you again in the future. You purchased this product, gave them a phone number.. Not sure where the issue lies? You agreed to the terms on Spreadshirt which is probably where you opted for marketing."

This is the basic approach. You give it to us. You agree to whatever we put in legalese and now we can do whatever we want. What?

It is disheartening, but I agree with the rest of the posts on HN that it is not at all surprising.

I just don't know how to approach it.

Crikey. Just downloaded all the data and having a browse. 22k line location file (about 3k locations) stored too. I don't have the app installed on any device i own. I presumed the mobile page wouldn't have permission. Checking the data it does seem to stop when I changed phone (samsung preinstall fb app)

    $ date -d @1495296127
    Sat 20 May 17:02:07 BST 2017
    $ date -d @1573424412
    Sun 10 Nov 22:20:12 GMT 2019

Also have every deliveroo purchase I've made in there they have an entry for every deliveroo purchase i've made

   {
      "name": "Deliveroo",
      "events": [
        {
          "id": 4538632xxxx,
          "type": "SUBMIT_APPLICATION",
          "timestamp": 1583216215
        },
        {
          "id": 33897312xxxx,
          "type": "PURCHASE",
          "timestamp": 1583146135
        },
        {
          "id": 3389731270xxxxxx,
          "type": "PURCHASE",
          "timestamp": 1582371142
        },

But raises a more important question: If you are reading this and don't like it - why do you still have a FB account?

When an advertising platform has to pay fartsniffers to follow you around to offer marginally better ctr than email spam, maybe just don't run ads?

Work manually on growing networks of users, actually walk up to them and chat, talk in relevant business forums and you won't spend thousands of dollars you don't have casting a net in hopes of finding people who more likely than not just don't want to be associated with your practices.

Moreover my facebook account is just a dummy one which only has the bare minimum of information to own my business page, which I don't even post to (I have dedicated social media people who do that).

Facebook doesn't even have my phone number, only my name and my business email address.

Very creepy.

Then you could also do something on a case by case basis where you can click to say “I don’t want Facebook to have this offline conversion.”

> I have never used FaceBook [sic] login for anything

> Facebook doesn't even have my phone number, only my name and my business email address.

People, if any company has A-N-Y-thing that can be associated with you, online or offline, you have no privacy. None. It is gone forever.

There is billions of dollars at stake for companies to build as complete a picture as possible of you and every detail of your life. And billions more remains on the table. That is plenty motivation to fuel a highly-lucrative market for accurate, meaningful profiling for years.

Sure, there's a long list of actions you could take to begin minimizing your exposure, the practicality of each varying widely. But frankly, most of them would only serve to make going about daily life inconvenient. (And the correlation between effectiveness and convenience isn't 1:1...)

The best case scenario is your data becoming stale, such that its values diminishes to a degree that makes it effectively background noise.

There is simply no means of unembedding yourself. But also, more discouragingly, for most people there is no practical means to avoid being ingested.

edit: grammar

https://www.facebook.com/off_facebook_activity/future_activi...

I use Firefox to avoid being tracked by Facebook, and never login with Facebook. But it looks like I slipped up in signing up for email receipts!

Even if I didn't have a Facebook account, Facebook would still be building a profile on me using my email address /phone number in anticipation of the day I made an account.

That's just great. So I guess the gift that marketing agencies have given us is that we can't trust anybody. The only thing left to do is go entirely cash-only and never give any personal details to any business whatsoever.

The marketing industry has become so toxic that it is now poisoning everything.

The data from "LAN TIM 2" was sent to Facebook on the 5th of March 2020, yesterday that is.

The only stores I've shopped at lately were ALDI and EDEKA, and yesterday I bought a Webhosting offer directly at the hoster's site, no third party involved.

I have never bought a custom shirt.

What I do have is a Motorola G7 Plus, which is filled with uninstallable background services from Facebook. Two days ago I upgraded it to Android 10 and now all those background services, like "Facebook App Manager" or "Facebook Installer", "Facebook Services", all names which truly frighten me, are activated again. I had deactivated them months ago on Android 9 as soon as I got this phone. I really am wondering about the data this phone is pushing to Facebook without my consent.

I really wonder what caused those two entries, I never give any consent to any company to share my data.

God I hate Facebook, they are the cancer of the internet.

It's fine that OP bought a t-shirt, not fine that that is somehow reported to Facebook.

It wouldn't be beyond Facebook to immediately connect that telemetry to your user profile, making these apps show up in your profile.

The problem is, they don't give me any meaningful data other than a code name and an incorrect date. If they'd said "This is from Company X on or around date Y regarding action Z" that would be more transparent, and more useful.

Edit: How they matched it up though is a mystery to me, as I use another e-mail address for FB than for the rest of the online world.

Not bad!

True, but the ad industry isn't like a boat. They don't want to track everything or build a complete profile about everyone. They just want to track most things and build a fairly complete profile about most people.

That means every privacy step you make has some incremental gains. Just because a private detective could use the collected data to build a complete profile of you, doesn't mean the ad company will - they'll collect data from the easiest sources, and if you make it too hard for them to get data about you, they'll simply collect data about other people.

All of the activity I had was from games that I casually installed and then deleted in the past month. These are games that I signed into with Google Play, which displayed advertisements primarily for Facebook.

Speaking of which, some of Facebook's advertisements are absurd.

https://i.redd.it/czyfotsak2l41.jpg

"Start Reacting Today".

If FB thinks you're a 72 yr old retired dentist from OK, and you buy nothing but feminine hygiene products and 3 wheel wheel barrels, you're pretty worthless as a consumer.

The future of ad block is disinformation. Makes the entire ecosystem worthless

There's no specific reason to believe this isn't the real name of the manufacturer. I tried to find more information about Lan Tim to see if that's likely the case, but I couldn't, but that's not very conclusive.

Lan Tim 2 is likely a contract manufacturer. Spreadshirt outsources the production of their t-shirts to Lan Tim 2. Likely, many companies do this as well. Lan Tim 2 probably does more than just t-shirts.

It's like with most craft beer sold in cans. The individual breweries cannot supply the demand for their product, so they have another company that specializes in mass production do it according to their recipe.

The contract manufacturer is likely the one giving data to FB, not the spreadshirt.

If you order via kiosk in Taco Bell, you have your receipt ONLY by text message or email. Yep. No print out option.

HOWEVER, if you order via cashier, you CAN print it out.