805 points by kungfudoi 3048 days ago | 154 comments on HN
| Moderate positive Editorial · v3.7· 2026-02-28 12:24:00
Summary Open Source Empowerment Champions
This commemorative blog post celebrates Firebug's 12-year history as an open-source web development tool that democratized access to code inspection and debugging capabilities for over a million developers worldwide. The content emphasizes community collaboration across 25+ countries, transparent knowledge sharing, and the tool's pivotal role in advancing technical literacy and scientific progress in web development. The overall tone is celebratory of collective achievement and frames the tool's end-of-life as a natural transition where its pioneering innovations continue through modern Firefox Developer Tools.
Thank you for the amazing contribution and for for making it a little bit easier to debug during a time when debugging was even harder. Firebug set in motion the browser tools that are bundled today.
i will miss you firebug!!!
I loved when i could open firebug + native dev tools... that way i could navigate in html with firebug and make css changes on the native dev.. on the same screen!
Now i can only open the native dev tools and i can only view either "Style editor" OR "Dom navigation" but not both at the same time.
I guess this is the right place to point out to people reminiscing that if you open Firefox dev tools and click the options cog, you can select a Firebug theme.
Firebug didn't just raise the bar for web debugging, it pretty much raised the bar for all debugging tools. It leaves a great legacy with the built-in dev tools. Great project.
Firebug was the greatest thing to happen to web development. Honestly I still prefer it to the native dev tools. I especially love how most things go to the console so I don't have to jump all over the place to find the information I'm looking for. I absolutely abhor the network panel in Chrome. It's like they're purposefully trying to make it difficult.
Things instantly became real when firebug for IE came out. To me that one tool made a front end web development career a viable option. Do y'all remember JS before Firebug? ouch
In my first job, about four years ago, my first task was to make certain modifications in firebug for our company's internal use (mostly in reporting and filtering).
I didn't even know JS to begin with. Jan Orvadko, the lead maintainer of Firebug, is an amazingly approachable & affable human being. He helped me a lot in the IRC channel, in going through the firebug codebase.
I know Firebug was great but it didn't usher in Web 2.0
> Jan 2007, Firebug 1.0 The start of Web 2.0!
O'Reilly Media Web 2.0 Conference was in 2004
We than had the infamous Time Person of the Year "YOU" "TIME selected the masses of users who were participating in content creation on social networks, blogs, wikis, and media sharing sites."
I'm really concerned about how much weaker the new WebExtensions API than the previous extensions API. Just today I saw (and submitted: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15542316) an interesting article about Keysnail, an amazing extension which is impossible to turn into a WebExtension — all because WebExtensions (apparently) forbids overriding C-n despite allowing override of other key sequences.
I'm very concerned for the future direction of Firefox.
I miss Firebug for one simple reason: It detached from the browser window as a singular window that provided developer functions to all of your browser tabs. In modern Firefox and Chrome, each tab has its own distinct developer tools panel that can be detached as a separate window for the operating system's window manager to handle.
Firebug's behavior was somewhat analogous to "MDI" in legacy GUI applications, in that a single window handled multiple views. The view switched with your browser's active tab.
The funny bit is that the stack of developer tool windows we end up with today is reminiscent of the stack of browser windows we had prior to the advent of tabbed browsing.
Joe Hewitt and Blake Ross have really left their mark. I wonder from time to time what they would have created if Facebook didn't acquire Parakey back in 2007. Hopefully, they will collaborate again in the future.
"The story of Firefox and Firebug is synonymous with the rise of the web. We fought the good fight and changed how developers inspect HTML and debug JS in the browser. Firebug ushered in the Web 2.0 era. "
I love, used and appreciate firebug as much as the next guy but this is a bit much. Its a great product that helped alot of people it's not an ideal to fight for nor "ushered" in web 2.0.
Does anyone know the history of the `console` object? The first time I ever saw it and used it was with Firebug, but it occurs to me that I don't know if Firebug invented it. Did it just decide to inject this name into the global namespace? And having it become a common API across multiple JS environments was due to its popularity in Firebug? Or was it somehow already in JS and I just wasn't aware of it up until that point?
RIP Firebug, brings back great memories of learning HTML / CSS / XPath selectors. I use Chrome developer tools these days (not a huge fan but it does work) but Firebug will always have a special place in my heart as a GREAT debugging tool.
Opera used to have its own debugging/inspection tool[1] as well. It was released in 2008, it was open-source[2] (unlike the browser), didn't required plugins like firebug at the time, had handy remote debugging, overall I enjoyed it the most. But it died with the browser. Honestly, I'm surprised it's still up somewhere.
The Firefox dev tools' Firebug theme gives me the illusion that I can click the network tab and find that old, reassuring interface. And instead it's the (in my opinion) less functional one from dev tools.
At that point, I prefer ditching the Firebug theme altogether, and embrace the loss. :(
WebRender is coming but absolutely isn’t ready yet; it’s not even turned on by default in Nightly (although I use it on my home machine and it’s getting a very good very quickly).
What do you mean? There are plenty of ways to filter down the activity tab in Chrome if the problem you're experiencing is that the volume of requests is too high to be useful.
That in itself doesn't mean much. At the time it was said that Web 2.0 is like teenage sex: everyone is talking about it, almost noone is doing it and those few that are doing it are doing it all wrong. :)
I do agree that Firebug (as much as I miss it) didn't have much to do with Web 2.0 though.
I often argue that Firebug is the reason Firefox is still around.
It was easier to develop on Firefox and then debug on IE. So a lot of websites worked on Firefox even if the management team didn't care (or even, in our case, when they told us not to support Firefox and we nodded and did it anyway)
My recollection is that you are correct; it originated with Firebug and sprouted in other browsers after that, but I would love some history around it too.
Most people debugged with alerts or document.write-ing in the page. The "wokest" were aware of Venkman (Moz/FF), Script Editor (IE) and the Visual Studio IE integration (also IE), all of which were pretty much just JS debuggers.
Venkman worked the best but the UX was a horrendous mess, SE and VS were less visually messy but (likely due to IE) frequently got lost entirely and were completely unable to debug the JS toplevel ("and "modules" were not really a thing back then, so much of your code would live in the JS toplevel).
This was also the epoch of Drip, an IE webview which would just reload a page over and over checking for IE's infamous DOM leaks.
God I so don't miss it.
Firebug was definitely a pivotal moment, a complete perspective shift for the field.
Given that webextensions are not just a firefox thing: HN's probably the wrong place to voice that particular concern? We're losing a number of sweet addons with the switch to web extensions in Firefox specifically, but in terms of cross-browser gains, web extensions rather than "these things only work in this one browser" still seems the right way forward, and it's just another web spec so if we need more out of it, let's get the attention of the people who draft that spec and get them to given more access to the things we need to bring back the functions that made life better.
I was building web products professionally before and after Firebug and the difference was staggering. It opened up the full possibilities of CSS and JavaScript like no other tool before it.
Having been a developer since Web "1.0" it's not exactly wrong, but I think you're interpreting that incorrectly.
Without Firebug a lot of the JS development that was basically required for Web 2.0 sites would have been much much slower and even more complex to maintain.
It didn't create Web 2.0 (arguably that had been a thing since 2003-2004, and the term dates to ~99) but it did usher it into mainstream development due to making it less painful to create that content.
Do you not remember what it was like in the years (nearly decades) prior to firebug? alert() still gives me nightmares. Firebug was easily as huge as AJAX, ES6, and other such milestones.
It really was. I actually quit web development a few months before I learnt about Firebug because Internet Explorer was causing me loss of sleep (seriously). When I discovered Firebug I almost wanted to start doing it again, but then I quickly reminded myself that it wouldn't help with IE6 retardation.
I was really surprised to see an inferior clone appear in Chrome. I then started to hear people talking about Chrome dev tools and would always ask, "did you not know about Firebug?", and the answer would be no. Strange.
Editorial Channel
What the content says
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Article 19Freedom of Expression
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Central theme: Firebug enabled freedom of expression and information access in digital context. Developers could inspect, modify, and understand code freely. Article itself demonstrates freedom of expression through transparent documentation, clear author attribution, dated historical record, and open comment section.
FW Ratio: 57%
Observable Facts
Content states Firebug 'was the first tool to let programmers inspect, edit, and debug code right in the Firefox browser' and 'let you monitor CSS, HTML, and JavaScript live in any web page.'
Article includes full contributor attribution and community quotes; comments section shows reader participation.
Author (Jan Honza Odvarko) clearly identified with date stamp (October 24, 2017).
Content documents complete 12-year history with transparent sourcing of historical quotes.
Inferences
The ability to inspect and edit code in real-time directly enables freedom of expression and information access in programming context.
Open source licensing coupled with transparent documentation exemplifies commitment to freedom of information.
The published history and credited contributors demonstrate editorial commitment to freedom of expression principles.
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Article 27Cultural Participation
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Strong celebration of scientific/technical progress. Explicitly states Firebug 'helped shift people from thinking Web 2.0 was a fad to realizing Web apps can be real,' advancing state of the art. Content documents introduction of HTTP Archive (HAR) format as scientific contribution with peer review (WWW 2010 conference paper).
FW Ratio: 60%
Observable Facts
Content states Firebug 'changed how developers inspect HTML and debug JS in the browser' and 'every browser has a debugger inspired by our work.'
Article documents peer-reviewed contribution: 'Jan Odvarko and I have submitted "Dynamic and Graphical Web Page Breakpoints" on the 1.5 breakpoints to WWW 2010.'
Describes invention of HTTP Archive (HAR) format as 'great success and many tools support it now,' a documented scientific standard.
Inferences
The documented technical innovations and peer-reviewed publications demonstrate commitment to sharing scientific advancement.
The worldwide adoption of HAR format and browser developer tools shows how scientific progress benefits humanity broadly.
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Article 2Non-Discrimination
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Content explicitly celebrates global, non-discriminatory participation. Contributor list spans 25+ countries including Poland, Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, China, India, Czech Republic, Germany, Romania, France, Hungary, Turkey, Spain, Ukraine, Japan, Iran, Armenia, Portugal, Slovenia, Bulgaria, Iceland, Vietnam, Croatia.
FW Ratio: 50%
Observable Facts
Translator list explicitly includes people from Poland (pl-PL), Netherlands (nl), Sweden (sv-SE), Denmark (da-DK), China (zh-CN), Czech Republic (cs-CZ), Germany (de-DE), Romania (ro-RO), France (fr-FR), Hungary (hu-HU), Turkey (tr-TR), Spain (es-ES), Ukraine (uk-UA), Japan (ja-JP), Iran (fa-IR), Armenia (hy-AM), Portugal (pt-PT), Slovenia (sl-SI), Bulgaria (bg), Iceland (is-IS), Vietnam (vi-VN), Croatia (hr-HR) and others.
Content celebrates 'growing collection of Firebug extensions' developed by contributors worldwide, emphasizing community diversity.
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Explicit naming of contributors from every major global region demonstrates commitment to recognizing non-discriminatory, inclusive participation.
Translation work across 25+ languages reflects intentional effort to serve users without language-based discrimination.
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Article 20Assembly & Association
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Strong theme throughout: community collaboration, Firebug Working Group formation, voluntary contributions from global developers, community-driven feature development, extensions ecosystem.
FW Ratio: 57%
Observable Facts
Article states 'The success of a project is always dependent on the dedication of developers, contributors, and involved users.'
Content describes 'Firebug Working Group started' and notes 'we all focused on building Firebug as well as the community around it.'
Documents growth from ~10 extensions in 2008 to '60 in 2011' showing community-driven expansion.
Comments section shows user testimonials praising collective achievement.
Inferences
The extensive documentation of community collaboration demonstrates commitment to freedom of assembly and association.
The formation of the Firebug Working Group as a formal collaborative structure exemplifies freedom of association.
The ecosystem of community extensions shows how enabling association led to expanded value and participation.
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Article 23Work & Equal Pay
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Content extensively celebrates how Firebug improved working conditions for millions of web developers. User comments state 'Firebug made my job so much better and less frustrating' and 'changed everything for me as a frontend developer.' Emphasizes professional empowerment and skill development.
FW Ratio: 60%
Observable Facts
User comment: 'Firebug changed everything for me as a frontend developer. Looking back I cannot remember how hard the times were before Firebug stepped on the scene.'
User comment: 'Firebug made my job so much better and less frustrating. It's hard to imagine working on frontend code without proper developer tools.'
Content notes Firebug 'let you monitor CSS, HTML, and JavaScript live in any web page, which was a huge step forward' for developer work.
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The tool directly improved working conditions by reducing frustration and enabling more effective development practices.
Access to professional-grade tools is a precondition for favorable working conditions in software development.
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Article 26Education
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Content celebrates Firebug's role as educational tool enabling millions to learn web development. Free and open access to tool and source code supported learning across all economic levels. Comments emphasize learning: 'hard to imagine working on frontend code without proper developer tools.'
FW Ratio: 60%
Observable Facts
Article states Firebug enabled developers to 'inspect, edit, and debug code right in the Firefox browser' and monitor CSS/HTML/JavaScript, fundamental learning mechanisms.
Content emphasizes 'over a million loyal fans' had access to this educational tool.
Describes how Firebug inspired all modern browser developer tools, multiplying educational impact.
The tool's role in teaching web development principles demonstrates support for right to education in digital literacy.
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Article 29Duties to Community
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Content celebrates community responsibility and positive impact. Emphasizes developers' shared duty to 'build sites used by millions of people worldwide' and community's commitment to advancing the web.
FW Ratio: 50%
Observable Facts
Content explicitly states 'This tool helped countless developers build sites used by millions of people worldwide,' framing developer community responsibility.
Article celebrates community members for advancing 'the state of the art' and contributing to collective good.
Inferences
The emphasis on collective impact and responsibility demonstrates commitment to duties toward broader community.
Recognition of developers' role in creating widely-used services emphasizes shared responsibility.
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Article 28Social & International Order
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Content discusses how Firebug created an ecosystem enabling rights realization. Open source and free access enabled developers to build better websites used by millions, creating a social order that favored innovation and skill-building.
FW Ratio: 50%
Observable Facts
Content states 'This tool helped countless developers build sites used by millions of people worldwide.'
Describes ecosystem of 60+ Firebug extensions enabling collective value creation.
Inferences
The enabling ecosystem demonstrates how designing for open access creates conditions where others can realize rights.
Free tool distribution created social conditions supporting broad participation in digital economy.
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Article 1Freedom, Equality, Brotherhood
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Content discusses how Firebug democratized web development tools, giving equal access to 'more than a million loyal fans' regardless of background or resources.
FW Ratio: 50%
Observable Facts
Article states Firebug 'developed a near cult following' and 'more than a million loyal fans still use it today.'
Describes how Firebug was 'the first tool to let programmers inspect, edit, and debug code right in the Firefox browser.'
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Widespread adoption suggests successful democratization of technical tools across developers of varying skill levels.
Open source model enabled equal access regardless of economic status.
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PreamblePreamble
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Content celebrates principles of human dignity, equality, and cooperation through the lens of community-driven open source development and knowledge sharing.
FW Ratio: 50%
Observable Facts
Article celebrates Firebug's 12-year history of community collaboration with 50+ named contributors.
Explicitly states 'Firebug will remain free and open source' and notes this reflects belief in 'making a lot of people happy and helping to advance the state of the art.'
Inferences
The emphasis on voluntary community contribution over commercial profit-seeking reflects commitment to dignity and equal benefit.
The global representation of contributors demonstrates commitment to principles of cooperation and universal participation.
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Article 17Property
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Content celebrates the decision to keep Firebug free and open source rather than commercialize it, framed as preference for 'making a lot of people happy' over profit.
FW Ratio: 33%
Observable Facts
Joe Hewitt's quote: 'I just don't feel like that is the right thing to do. I love working on Firebug because I know I'm making a lot of people happy...That's a lot more meaningful to me than just about anything else.'
Inferences
The decision to open-source rather than commercialize reflects a view of property rights oriented toward community benefit.
Firebug's open licensing enabled 60+ extensions, demonstrating how property rights choices enable broader participation.
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Article 6Legal Personhood
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Content acknowledges individual contributors by name, recognizing their personhood and specific contributions to the project.
FW Ratio: 50%
Observable Facts
Article provides named attribution to 50+ individual contributors and 30+ translators with their locations and roles.
Inferences
Detailed naming of individuals recognizes their distinct personhood and agency in technical creation.
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Article 18Freedom of Thought
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Content tangentially celebrates freedom to innovate and choose technical direction; open source philosophy implicitly supports freedom of conscience.
FW Ratio: 50%
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Article emphasizes developer choice and freedom to contribute extensions and features.
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Open source development model enables participants to exercise intellectual freedom and choose their contributions.
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Article 12Privacy
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Article content is neutral on privacy; does not address privacy concerns or advocacy.
FW Ratio: 50%
Observable Facts
Article contains no discussion of privacy, surveillance, or personal data protection.
Content focuses on technical tool capabilities rather than privacy implications.
Inferences
Absence of privacy discussion in technical documentation is consistent with era (2017) when developer-tool privacy features were less emphasized.
Structural tracking noted in DCP suggests domain practices diverge from privacy-first positioning.
Site implements Google Analytics and GTM tracking with UTM parameter removal utility, indicating awareness of privacy concerns but continued analytics deployment.
Terms of Service
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Terms of service not observable in provided content.
Mozilla's stated mission around open web and developer empowerment aligns with knowledge-sharing and technical security education.
Editorial Code
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Technical blog format with clear author attribution and date stamps supports editorial transparency.
Ownership
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Mozilla Foundation ownership as non-profit organization supports commitment to public interest over profit-driven content.
Access Model
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Open access technical content published without paywall or registration barrier.
Ad/Tracking
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Google Analytics and GTM tracking present on page reduces privacy score despite Mozilla's privacy advocacy.
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Article 19Freedom of Expression
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Blog provides open access publishing without paywall or registration; author clearly identified; transparent documentation of history; comments section enables reader voice.
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Article 20Assembly & Association
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Blog enables community voice through comments; mentions community associations (Firebug Working Group); demonstrates commitment to collective action.
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Article 26Education
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Open access blog and linked technical documentation support educational access; no paywall or registration barrier.
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Article 27Cultural Participation
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Blog documents scientific contributions and historical innovation; transparent methodology documentation.
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Article 28Social & International Order
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Open access platform supports institutional order favoring human rights principles.
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PreamblePreamble
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Blog format provides transparent, accessible documentation; no paywalls or access barriers.
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Article 2Non-Discrimination
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Platform gives voice to diverse contributors; accessible documentation structure.
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Article 17Property
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Open access model for technical content supports property rights decision to benefit community.
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Article 23Work & Equal Pay
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Blog discusses professional tools and resources; linked to career development.
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Article 29Duties to Community
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Blog documents transparent responsibility and impact metrics.
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Article 1Freedom, Equality, Brotherhood
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Blog provides open access information supporting developer equality; limited structural action.
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Article 12Privacy
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Domain-level tracking via Google Analytics and GTM (per DCP) reduces structural privacy score.
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Article 3Life, Liberty, Security
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Article 4No Slavery
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Article 5No Torture
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Article 6Legal Personhood
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Article 7Equality Before Law
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Article 8Right to Remedy
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Article 9No Arbitrary Detention
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Article 10Fair Hearing
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Article 11Presumption of Innocence
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Article 13Freedom of Movement
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Article 14Asylum
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Article 15Nationality
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Article 16Marriage & Family
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Article 18Freedom of Thought
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Article 21Political Participation
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Article 22Social Security
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Article 24Rest & Leisure
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Article 25Standard of Living
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Article 30No Destruction of Rights
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