Aliabid94 2026-02-28 06:53 UTC link

Gotta derail any peace talks!

riffraff 2026-02-28 07:23 UTC link

well, they were one week away from a nuke, as usual.

athrowaway3z 2026-02-28 07:40 UTC link

I have to wonder how much of this is driven by Israel accounting for the risk of less favorable US relationship in the future.

Pre-emptive violence; not even justified with a narrative of escalating threat.

Bleak for anybody who knows their history.

r721 2026-02-28 07:58 UTC link

Feb 25:

>White House officials believe ‘the politics are a lot better’ if Israel strikes Iran first

>As the administration mulls military action in Iran, officials argue it’d be best if Israel makes the first move.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/25/white-house-politic...

nomilk 2026-02-28 08:06 UTC link

Are there any accurate sources on how many Iranian citizens the Iran regime has killed in the past couple of months? (some sources suggest tens of thousands, but I wonder if it could be a 'WMDs' situation [lie to get support for a war]).

Trump said in the State of the Union [0]:

> in just over the past couple of months with the protests they've killed at least 32000 protestors

And just moments ago Trump says 'tens of thousands' [1]

Is this confirmed or conjecture?

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l-iErpskb8&t=1h21m20s

[1] https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/2027651077865157033

TheAlchemist 2026-02-28 08:10 UTC link

Regardless of how it ends, and it can go both ways, we're witnessing history here. This feels like a much bigger development than Russia-Ukraine. Iran is a major partner for Russia and China, mostly for military technology and oil. Hope it's not a start of WW3.

kibae 2026-02-28 08:11 UTC link

There seems to be an uptick around 1am on Polymarket.

https://polymarket.com/event/us-strikes-iran-by

coffinbirth 2026-02-28 08:56 UTC link

At this point, no country in the world will ever again 'make a deal' with the US, because while pretending to negotiate with you they try to ram a knife into your back.

komali2 2026-02-28 09:19 UTC link

Ever since the ICE stuff I've been desperate to find a way to not pay my taxes - even if it means donating 2, 3x, hell 4x my tax bill to somewhere else. Obviously it's basically impossible to do this (especially if your income is all self employment income) outside of just spending every penny you earn on something that could be viably considered a business expense. So I'm wondering if I should just straight up stop working until I can relinquish my USA citizenship.

Spend down my savings and assets till I have almost nothing to exit tax, exit, and then start working again.

I don't want to fund the bombing of strangers I have no quarrel with.

apexalpha 2026-02-28 09:31 UTC link

While I have no love for the Iranian regime I fear this will end up like the 'liberation' of Iraq: A massive power vacuum in an unstable Islamic regime.

What even is the plan here if the air assault fails? Boots on the ground? In Iran?

pseingatl 2026-02-28 09:47 UTC link

There are always unanticipated consequences in war. Argentina never thought in a million years that an attack on the practically undefended Falklands would result in the loss of the General Belgrano.

rurban 2026-02-28 09:49 UTC link

The headlines in Europe are that Israel is carrying out preventive strikes, the USA is helping.

And that's certainly the deathbed of any hopes to a mullah regime change. They will come out stronger than before.

karim79 2026-02-28 10:05 UTC link

I can't help but think that all this shit is because Netanyahu really wants to put off more court hearings on his lame ass corruption charges. I really can't wait for him and his cronies (in Israel, and the West) to be brought to justice.

Without having to wait for the history books to do their thing.

Simon_ORourke 2026-02-28 10:07 UTC link

Are all our foreign policy decisions now made in Tel Aviv to suit Israel?

upmind 2026-02-28 10:10 UTC link

How did the US justify this?

manyaoman 2026-02-28 10:15 UTC link

I take this as a confirmation that more "nuclear material" i.e. unpublished Epstein files still exist.

m00dy 2026-02-28 10:19 UTC link

This is the beginning of 3rd world war.

dastuer 2026-02-28 10:24 UTC link

As Iranians, we have collectively been waiting for this day.

We want this mafia regime be gone as soon as possible so that we can be free.

abdusco 2026-02-28 07:30 UTC link

Can't have Gaza have relief for a second!

throwawa1 2026-02-28 07:34 UTC link

since 1992!

flyinglizard 2026-02-28 07:41 UTC link

The concept of nuclear brinkmanship is part of accepted WMD doctrine. A country can maintain a fixed short interval away from weaponization for decades. It is widely accepted that Iran does have a military nuclear program; the amount of material enriched, the enrichment level achieved and the hardening of the involved facilities are an open testament to that (there are many other intelligence signals that we are not privy to).

yonisto 2026-02-28 07:46 UTC link

LOL. The US is on it too. So what you have to say for yourself now?

e40 2026-02-28 07:48 UTC link

And it happened on a Friday night. Best time of the week for the least news impact.

weatherlite 2026-02-28 07:54 UTC link

It was Trump or his immediate environmetn who asked Israeli to attack Iran first (better optics); Israel would have never done this without American approval. Did Israel want this to happen though ? Yes. But so did the Americans. I guess the negotiations went badly.

seydor 2026-02-28 07:54 UTC link

The US has moved half of its navy in the region, and there are doubts about its support?

epsters 2026-02-28 07:57 UTC link

More specifically, seems to be driven by Netanyahu's political accounting. Starting a potential major war going into mid-terms is pretty inconvenient for Trump who could be looking at impeachment over Epstein. But Netanyahu is facing trial and October-7 investigation commissions more imminently and can't wait that long. Netanyahu trumps Trump, evidently.

gpt5 2026-02-28 08:05 UTC link

Looks like the rumor was incorrect. Both jointly attacked (NYtimes - https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/02/28/world/iran-strikes-t...)

bawolff 2026-02-28 08:18 UTC link

I think its incredibly difficult to get confirmed numbers in a situation like that.

I do think its on the higher end though as i dont think they would have bothered with a costly extended internet blackout if the number was small.

sekai 2026-02-28 08:19 UTC link

Just now:

Trump: "The lives of American heroes may be lost, and we may have casualties - that often happens in war."

Another republican president starting a war in the middle east, once again sacrificing American lives.

piping_pony 2026-02-28 08:19 UTC link

What peace talks? The ones where for over a year Iran refused to deescalate their nuclear war program and the now Europe range ballistic missiles?

colordrops 2026-02-28 08:20 UTC link

Why does it matter? Is it justification to attack them?

dist-epoch 2026-02-28 08:25 UTC link

Due to distance planes need to take off many hours before the bombs drop.

You can get an edge here by moving your ass somewhere where you can see the planes take off, maybe a team with people at multiple locations - boats near the aircraft carrier, near military bases in Israel, ...

dash2 2026-02-28 08:31 UTC link

Depends how you count “big”. Russia-Ukraine has had about 1 million deaths, and has completely changed how Europe thinks about security- it’s hardly a sideshow. Then again, not much territory has changed hands and there has been no regime change yet.

usrnm 2026-02-28 08:40 UTC link

I don't get that argument at all. Americans felt that they were missing out on all the fun, so they decided to kill even more Iranians? Does anyone really believe that bombing cities saves lives?

Etheryte 2026-02-28 08:48 UTC link

Russia and Ukraine are now at war for the fifth year running, you're just used to the fact that there is ongoing war in Europe.

concinds 2026-02-28 08:49 UTC link

No it's not. This is an air strike campaign, no boots on the ground. It'll end in two weeks. There is no chance China or Russia get involved, like last time, so "WW3" is completely non-credible.

yyyk 2026-02-28 09:01 UTC link

You can blame that on Obama and EU countries bombing Libya despite them agreeing to all nuclear demands, not this war (where it's unsurprising that negotiations can fail).

epsters 2026-02-28 09:01 UTC link

Why are we even talking about this? As if this is being done for the 'protestors'? Netanyahu didn't visit the White House 6 times in the last year to advocate for the welfare of the Iranian people. The "negotiations" over the last several weeks weren't over protestors - it was over the Nuclear program, ballistic program and proxy forces. It wasn't even about US interests. Iran offered mining, oil and other valuable rights. Trump wasn't buying. This is about Israel's national security interests and hegemonic ambitions. Protestors are just pawns in service of that.

If this turns into a full-scale war or a civil war breaks out, we are looking at 1 million Iranian deaths conservatively speaking. Just look at happened at every single foreign intervention in the region - Iraq, Syria, Libya, Sudan, Somalia. How does a million dead Iranians help them? How does it help the Americans, and the world if oil infrastructures or shipping lanes are targeted ? How does it help the region or Europe when millions of refugees flood out, and armouries are broken open and weapons and insurgents flood the region (like it did with Iraq and Libya)? It helps Israel greatly though, since they take out their arch nemesis, their conventional military and the nuclear program. And they think can shield themselves from the chaos they create around them.

jameshilliard 2026-02-28 09:07 UTC link

It was pretty obvious that if the negotiations failed that the US would respond by attacking Iran. Iran didn't seem willing to give up their nuclear weapons program regardless of the quite predictable consequences.

shusaku 2026-02-28 09:10 UTC link

I’m honestly perplexed. I had anticipated a scenario like “the US feared Iran was unstable and attacked to protect nuclear material”. It seems this would give them reasonable cover. I don’t see how Israel going along helps

dmos62 2026-02-28 09:20 UTC link

> This feels like a much bigger development than Russia-Ukraine.

Russia-Ukraine war is 1M+ combat casualties deep and is nowhere near finished. You are out of touch.

Havoc 2026-02-28 09:22 UTC link

You just need access to the videos then the pedo cabal does whatever you want

dmos62 2026-02-28 09:30 UTC link

If you're willing to go through all this trouble, why not just become politically active? Don't underestimate what a motivated individual can do. All these public figures (or institutions) swaying the country back and forth are only people too.

propagandist 2026-02-28 09:40 UTC link

You're a good person and I feel similarly. We live under the Fourth Reich.

I do not think ceasing work is the right move, but definitely get involved politically and don't equivocate when you condemn our elected "representatives".

It might also soothe your soul to be in the company of like-minded individuals. A Quaker prayer is a sure place to find many.

FrankSaaSDev 2026-02-28 09:43 UTC link

Somehow world will close eyes again ... Somehow we need to bring back moral standards that we all have deep in ourselves and screw this money world me all made together... I dont have answers or ideas how but this is just nonsense

bambax 2026-02-28 09:49 UTC link

WW3 started with the invasion of Ukraine.

altern8 2026-02-28 10:08 UTC link

What does it mean "fail"?

What is the goal, to overthrow the regime, so success would mean a change of government?

(sorry, I haven't followed)

altern8 2026-02-28 10:09 UTC link

You know the answer ;-)

A_D_E_P_T 2026-02-28 10:09 UTC link

Sure seems that way. I don't really see how this military action is justified from a US perspective. Or even from an Israeli one. The most likely justification is that the leadership of the US and Israel are a little bit unhinged and want a war to distract from domestic issues.

Simon_ORourke 2026-02-28 10:09 UTC link

I think just forego the hypocrisy and have the Israeli's move the White House over there and put one of their own in it instead of pulling the strings.

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