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+0.29 Claude Code: Now in Beta in Zed (zed.dev)
683 points by meetpateltech 175 days ago | 406 comments on HN | Mild positive Product · v3.7 ·
Summary Digital Freedom & Openness Advocates
This Zed blog post announces the integration of Claude Code through an open Agent Client Protocol (ACP), emphasizing community contributions and developer choice. The content primarily engages with UDHR provisions around freedom of expression (Article 19) through advocacy for open standards and unrestricted interoperability, and with scientific-cultural participation (Article 27) through its open-source model and celebration of community contributions. While primarily a product announcement, the content demonstrates values aligned with human rights principles regarding open systems and collaborative technological advancement.
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HN Discussion 20 top-level · 30 replies
koakuma-chan 2025-09-03 15:31 UTC link
I just installed it and it seems changing mode is unsupported? I can't figure out how to switch to plan mode.
giancarlostoro 2025-09-03 15:46 UTC link
Zed is my favorite editor in a long time, and thats without diving into its AI support.
extr 2025-09-03 15:57 UTC link
Zed is so great, I do wish they would focus just a little bit more on bringing the UI just a bit more up to parity with VS Code, I would switch full time.
ZpJuUuNaQ5 2025-09-03 16:34 UTC link
I am sure Zed is great and I appreciate the effort put in to create it, but nowadays I just cannot imagine switching from VSCode to something else. In my limited understanding, none of the existing alternatives offer anything (and often misses at least something) truly innovative or anything else that VSCode extension wouldn't solve. On VSCode I have about 15 different profiles setup, each with different settings and dozens of extensions based on either a technology stack or a project - it would be really difficult to find a good reason to throw it all away. The idea of switching between IDEs does not appeal to me either. I do use Neovim a little bit too, but most of that usage time was spent on configuration.
atonse 2025-09-03 17:00 UTC link
My main issue with claude code is running multiple ones in parallel. I don't want to manually do all the git worktree stuff, I just want claude to handle it for me.

So if Zed automatically handles that (where there's a worktree per thread) I can see the appeal. Apart from that, I'm already using Tower to view the changes so I'm not really sure what the value here is.

I tried installing it, and got an error "can't load supported slash commands" – not sure what that means.

unshavedyak 2025-09-03 17:05 UTC link
I want to try Zed but the Helix mode seems quite young. Vim mode sounds good, but i just can't move away from Helix mode. (oh and of course, my own modifications to Helix's input config)

My difficulty in finding editors that fit my desired input scheme kinda reminds me of the old pre-LSP days. Where you'd chose an editor based on it's language features. I wonder if we need some sort of common editor interface to allow these sort of text editing primitives to work in new editors, as it seems to be considerable friction.

srid 2025-09-03 17:11 UTC link
Note: if you use SSH-based remote development, this doesn't work.

https://x.com/sridca/status/1963271904384401886

ppeetteerr 2025-09-03 17:35 UTC link
I love Zed and I'm glad you now have native support for Claude. I previously ran it using the instructions in this post: https://benswift.me/blog/2025/07/23/running-claude-code-with...

One thing that still suffers is AI autocomplete. While I tried Zed's own solution and supermaven (now part of Cursor), I still find Cursor's AI autocomplete and predictions much more accurate (even pulling up a file via search is more accurate in Cursor).

I am glad to hear that Zed got a round of funding. https://zed.dev/blog/sequoia-backs-zed This will go a long way to creating real competition to Cursor in the form of a quality IDE not built on VSCode

jryio 2025-09-03 17:51 UTC link
What most of these comments are missing is the attempt at standardization and unification.

There are a lot of comments that people need X feature in order to switch to Y editor. While that may be true and your particular workflow requires certain features, what is overlooked is the survival pressure for editors.

It appears that our industry is moving towards adoption, sometimes mandatory, of AI coding agents. Regardless of your feelings on the topic, having good tooling to support this effort comes down to: switching costs, compatibility with existing editors, and a strong ecosystem of third party extensions.

While Cursor/Windsurf jumped the gun on bespoke editor integrations with LLMs - the adoption of MCP and other SDKs for coding agents means it's plug and play. The full feature set will be in every editor connected to every agent.

I think Zed wins on having the lowest switching costs for most developers. Paying down generic solutions like Agent Client Protocol (AC) now is a good strategy. It took multiple parties coming together for us to get TLS, OAuth 2.0, and ECMAScript.

I don't see why most editors should behave like hand crafted musical instruments when in reality they are much more akin to high quality knives in a kitchen (sure you have your favorite knife set and bring it from job to job, but at the end of the day you can be just as productive with a different knife when necessary).

skhameneh 2025-09-03 18:17 UTC link
I like Zed in concept. I like Zed in the architectural and foundational aspects. I want more tools like Zed to exist.

But, I find Zed challenging to adopt due to random nuances. First, settings management is a mixed bag and sometimes I just want a quick way to open the "settings.json" from the settings pane without fussing around. Then I'd like the "settings.json" to stay open (reopen) on a restart of Zed. Then I'd like the ability to use an LLM that doesn't have native tool calling support, which Zed seems to be the only app I've used that doesn't have a workaround. Then I'd like the UI to be a little easier to navigate as a new user, it feels a bit scattered and overwhelming at times.

I haven't used Zed much and I may give it another shot (soon), but it very much feels like a tool built by engineers for engineers... Which is great for power users, but seems not so great for new adopters.

I don't think the shortcomings are a blocker, but they are the reason I haven't adopted Zed. The shortcomings are just enough for me to take a step back and say "maybe I'll try again later".

neurostimulant 2025-09-03 18:24 UTC link
It's great that Zed adding this very useful feature, but isn't this effectively cannibalize their own AI subscription plans? Why pay zed $20 when you already pay for claude code and can use it in the assistant panel? You might still want the edit prediction feature, but then why pay zed $20 when you can pay $10 github copilot and can use it to power zed's edit prediction feature?
btown 2025-09-03 18:28 UTC link
As a VS Code + Claude Code user, I'm really excited to see progress here, because the official near-zero-config Claude Code IDE integration is... inflexible, at best.

What if I want to send a subset of my open editor panes to Claude Code? What if I want Claude Code to open diffs for its edited files in a specific area/window, and silently open that file so that I can multitask on other things without it taking focus when it's done thinking? What if I want keyboard shortcuts for specific slash commands, or to trigger a slash command from another task?

Having a robust open-source ecosystem that will let users fork and build customizable UI around coding agent experiences will make them even better, and the space will move even more quickly because the ecosystem won't split between different preferences for agent/model choice. It's an incredible time to be coding.

dcre 2025-09-03 20:15 UTC link
Glad to see this out so quickly. Like I said[0] on the Gemini announcement post, it feels like Zed is trying to get out of the business of iterating on agent logic and just let other people handle it. Any prompting secret sauce a) is trivial to copy, and b) gets eaten by the next model generation anyway. The capabilities of Claude Code, Codex, OpenCode, etc. seem to me to be converging.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45045515

dimgl 2025-09-03 21:03 UTC link
I tried it and I think it's still missing a few important features.

- I don't want to constantly auto-accept. The point of auto-accept is that it auto-accepts. Seems like a bug.

- It'd be great if I could go back to a specific message and delete the ones I don't want, similar to the CLI version.

- Where is Plan Mode? Maybe I just couldn't figure out how to get to it.

- I can't easily see Background Tasks.

- How do I change models?

- How do I create new sessions (via /new for instance)? Why is `/clear` not supported?

- I don't want to see the entirety of the edits in the terminal. Can they be collapsed by default? Or maybe show a preview?

fabbbbb 2025-09-03 22:06 UTC link
Their landing page via Safari manages to crash my iPhone 11 Pro repeatedly, namely crashing Safari but also another app and the Bluetooth connections - had not seen that before so they are clearly innovative.
agrippanux 2025-09-04 04:38 UTC link
I love Zed but this has all the hallmarks of something being totally rushed out the door.

It works off the Claude Code SDK, which mean it doesn't support many of the built in slash commands - it doesn't support /compact, which is 100% necessary because when you use this implementation enough, you'll eventually get a "Prompt too long" error message with no ability to do anything about it. Since you can't see how far you are in the context window, it's a deal breaker, since you have to start a fresh chat and might run out of room before you can ask it to create a summary prompt for continuing.

There is no way to switch models that I can tell - I think it just picks up on your default model - and there is no way to switch to Plan mode, which has become absolutely crucial to my workflow.

I didn't see Zed picking up on problems reported in the IDE, it was defaulting to running 'tsc -b' in my directories.

At this point it's better to run a terminal inside Zed and work from there. The official response in the Zed Discord has been "talk to your local Anthropic rep" to get them to support Zed's Agent Client Protocol (ACP).

kar1181 2025-09-04 07:02 UTC link
Also love Zed, but sigh, it's VC funded. We all know how this is going to end. Best VIM mode ever implemented in a (non vim) app. I use it as my 2nd editor (most of the time in Jetbrains products).

I just hope I'm wrong about the medium term impact of the VC funding but rushing AI AI AI out seems to be a sign of that rather than fixing fundamental issues that remain such as the ugly font rendering.

Syzygies 2025-09-04 09:18 UTC link
This interests me but they don't address practical Claude Code Opus 4.1 use at scale.

I have a $200/month Anthropic Max subscription that I use for help in exploring and coding my math research. As of now no AI model can compete with Opus 4.1 for helping me with my most challenging tasks. I try every one I can. Gemini 2.5 Pro is great for code review and a second opinion, but drives off the road when it takes the wheel.

I tried a $100/monthly plan and spent $20 in an hour the first time I went over; an API key is not a practical way to use Opus 4.1.

There are plenty of concerns using Clause Code in a terminal, that Zed could address. Mainly, I can't "see over AI's shoulder" so I need to also test. The most careful extension I coded was terminal sessions we could share as equal participants. Nevertheless, as a rule I'd attribute my relative success to just living with shortcomings, as if a "partner that snores". AI loses track of the current directory all the time, or forgets my variable naming and comment conventions? Just keep going, fix it later.

How can I get equivalent value to my Max plan, using Claude Code Opus 4.1 with Zed?

sgrytoyr 2025-09-04 10:17 UTC link
If they could add support for remote development (meaning the claude code instance runs on the remote server in the same folder that you have already opened as a remote/ssh project in Zed) and add a way to paste images in Zed and have them interpreted by CC on the server, this would really be a killer feature.

As someone who’s running a development agency I need to have tens of dev environments for different client projects running at the same time, and being able to switch between them multiple times every day (often from multiple client computers), so a remote server is the only way to go–I don’t want all of that stuff running on my Macs.

Nowadays I also have tens of CCs running on the dev server, switching between them using tmux, which works great, but the lack of support for pasting images through the terminal/ssh/tmux has been a real bummer. It would be great if Zed found a way to bridge that gap.

jimmyshoes 2025-09-04 18:59 UTC link
Fine. Cool step for Zed to push ACP, and I think this is the right direction for the IDE space.

But tbh if it’s not as frictionless as the Codex IDE extension in a Zed-skinned VSCode, it doesn’t matter.

Tried giving Claude and CC many chances, but the cognitive load of constantly managing a hard context window is DOA.

Codex w/gpt-5 is on par if not better than any of Anthropic’s solutions at this point, and the ubiquity (web, CLI, IDE) + UX consistency of Codex under one account/plan just dominates any marginal value of using a different model at a higher price.

Codex just works. Then it keeps working. Then it keeps working.

Any solution that wants to compete with OAI’s latest hostile takeover attempt has to match then beat on “unlimited/anywhere/frictionless” UX across platforms AND price ($200/mo all in).

I don’t see a good way out of this for most, except through major spend on playing catchup.

Guess that’s why Anthropic just raised again. Cursor is clearly trying to play, but they will always be a markup product until they launch their own SOTA model. Is Gemini still alive?

Aeolun 2025-09-03 15:55 UTC link
I think the article mentions this not yet being supported by the SDK, and therefore by the editor.
sirodoht 2025-09-03 16:02 UTC link
What do you feel is missing from the UI?
TheRoque 2025-09-03 16:11 UTC link
What's so great about zed ?
pimeys 2025-09-03 16:39 UTC link
It's really interesting point of view. I'm one of those people who avoid using VSCode at any cost. It's slow, it's bloated, the UI is not great, and it's slowly being locked down by Microsoft.

If Zed would not exist, I would be using helix, neovim, or emacs as I did before.

kiney 2025-09-03 16:42 UTC link
I had to use VSCode for some projects in the past because it was what was available on the clients workstations... I can't imagine having to use that laggy electron abomination all the time. For me Zed is sent from heaven, because my previously preferred editor (geany) hast basically zero developtment nowadays.
mikeocool 2025-09-03 16:45 UTC link
Zed's main selling point over VSCode for me is the lack of a slight delay between when I press a key and when the character appears.

VSCode has always felt ever so slightly sluggish to me, and I find it maddening as I type.

LocalPCGuy 2025-09-03 16:56 UTC link
There is always a "better mousetrap", and there are those that continue to use the old one because they "know how it works and it's set up just the way I like it". And there are others that try every new mousetrap that hits the market. (and that's ok, not slighting either one)

I will say that I personally have never really gelled with VSCode no matter how much I try to customize it, it still is just a bit off. For me, it's like it's too much to be a simple editor like SublimeText or NeoVim, but not quite enough to be an IDE like IntelliJ or Visual Studio (full). It does just enough that I expect a bit more of it and it often fails to deliver. Right now I tend to just use 2 editors - one very simple one for viewing/editing text files and one IDE (currently IntelliJ) for coding in a project.

On topic - Zed is actually a really nice editor. It had some rough edges last time I tried it, but it's probably about time to give it another go.

ZachSaucier 2025-09-03 17:29 UTC link
Ona makes this easy: https://ona.com/
cpuguy83 2025-09-03 17:32 UTC link
Anyone running this on Linux? I find it works fairly poorly there. To be fair, vscode is also not great for me (especially vim mode) on Linux.
cedws 2025-09-03 17:36 UTC link
That's unfortunate. I use Zed and I'm moving towards containerising my dev environment (using SSH remote dev to connect Zed to the container) because all this agentic stuff seems like a security nightmare. At the very least I want to restrict the blast radius to my repos dir.
Karrot_Kream 2025-09-03 17:58 UTC link
I wanted to like VSCode but it has enough input latency on my machines that it's not that enjoyable when I'm "locked in". Also if I'm running a bunch of services in Docker on MacOS (which means they're running VMs sigh) the overhead of VSCode is just too much and the system starts swapping constantly grinding the whole thing to a halt. I also find configuring it a pain. Every configuration pane feels ad-hoc and not part of a holistic, configurable system. Emacs has lots of crusty bits and an annoying event loop that you have to really work around but is designed a lot more holistically than VSCode.

Zed to me feels like a great batteries-included editor and I still run it as my non-emacs alternate editor. I wish its configuration was a bit more discoverable (especially with configuring linters/formatters), but it's 95% of what I need 95% of the time.

achairapart 2025-09-03 18:06 UTC link
Any reason for this? Is it something temporary or it will never be supported?
cnqso 2025-09-03 18:09 UTC link
What Zed lacks in code generation quality it makes up for in not-being-an-Electron-app
yes_but_no 2025-09-03 18:13 UTC link
If you are already familiar with Vim bindings is Helix's object then action really worth that much?
Karrot_Kream 2025-09-03 18:18 UTC link
Helix seems to have good LSP support from what I can tell? The only language I use at $WORK that doesn't have full support is GraphQL which lacks auto indent.

If you want to try something similar to Helix in emacs, there's meow-mode. While I'm not a helix user myself, it shouldn't be too difficult to get meow to work like helix.

camwest 2025-09-03 18:25 UTC link
honeycrispy 2025-09-03 18:29 UTC link
The nuance situation is rapidly improving. I had several minor issues with Zed ~6 months ago, and most of them have been patched away.
bbor 2025-09-03 18:30 UTC link
I spent a while trying to set it up, as I share your general take on their ethos. Personally, I'm okay with a 'power user'-focused text editor, even! But the relative lack of syntax highlighting options got me to give up. Maybe I'm just spoiled from SublimeText's dope, complex, extensible system for specifying "contexts" in themes, but Zed was just nowhere near enough for me.

The keybinding system is also nuts if you turn on Vim mode, but I think I'd eventually get used to that. But functions need to be a different color than arguments, which need to be a different color than local variables... Just non-negotiable.

I look forward to trying it again sometime soon! The AI features seem rad, this included.

scottcorgan 2025-09-03 18:37 UTC link
I'll third this. AI autocomplete is THE most efficient and helpful feature of Cursor, not the agents.
hajile 2025-09-03 18:39 UTC link
I was somewhat surprised to find that Zed still doesn't have a way to add your own local autocomplete AI using something like Ollama. Something like Qwen 2.5 coder at a tiny 1.5b parameters will work just fine for the stuff that I want. It runs fast and works when I'm between internet connections too.

I'd also like to see a company like Zed allow me to buy a license of their autocomplete AI model to run locally rather than renting and running it on their servers.

I'd also pay for something in the 10-15b parameter range that used more limited training data focused almost entirely on programming documentation and books along with professional business writing. Something with the coding knowledge of Qwen Coder combined with the professionalism and predictability of IBM Granite 3. I'd pay quite a lot for such an agent (especially if it got updates every couple of months that worked in new documentation, bugfixes, github threads, etc to keep the answers up-to-date).

nosefurhairdo 2025-09-03 18:44 UTC link
I suspect Zed will aim to tackle this issue via DeltaDB:

https://zed.dev/blog/sequoia-backs-zed#introducing-deltadb-o...

gm678 2025-09-03 18:47 UTC link
For what it's worth, I think Zed now has a default keybind to open settings.json: Ctrl+,

I assume that keybind is also configurable?

diegs 2025-09-03 18:50 UTC link
I agree, I've fantasized about an editor with a truly pluggable editing model which is decoupled from the other parts.

Yi was kind of designed like this, I believe. You could compile in an emacs-like model, a vim-like model, or presumably make your own model.

I've used Helix and Kakoune in addition to Emacs and Vim, but dealing with the limitations/featureset/plugin treadmill gets a little tiring.

I have been following Zed, and it seems that they have rearchitected things to enable adding Helix mode and making the editing model a bit more modular, but it's still fairly new. They are fixing bugs pretty quickly. I will have to try it again.

They have a nice discussion here:

https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/discussions/6447

They reference Ki, which also looks cool, and they out some of Helix's inconsistencies in their comparison: https://ki-editor.github.io/ki-editor/docs/comparisons/

I prefered Kakoune to Helix (it was more consistent). But to your point, being able to swap these things out more easily would let you choose an editor based on features, and not tradeoff between features and an ergonomic editing model.

Ironically you can use Ki inside of VSCode (and I know you can use Vim that way too), but VSCode is so darn bloated and slow...

ricardobeat 2025-09-03 19:27 UTC link
It’s also great that they’re willing to risk that, in the name of a potentially better user experience. That’s what gets them to win in the long run, not building another walled garden.
bobbylarrybobby 2025-09-03 21:05 UTC link
Neovim can run in server mode, where other editors send it user input and then Neovim sends back the buffer. This is how I use vim in VSCode — not the Vim extension but the Neovim extension, which uses the real Neovim, which of course reads my Neovim config and plugins and makes them available to VSCode. So it seems like helix “just” needs a server mode, and then you can integrate it into any editor.
atombender 2025-09-03 22:49 UTC link
I wonder if Augment [1] are working on a Zed plugin.

I've been using Augment for more than a year in Jetbrains IDEs, and been very impressed by it, both the autocomplete and the Cursor-style agent. I've looked at Cursor and couldn't figure out why anyone needed to use a dedicated IDE when Augment exists as a plugin. Colleagues who have used Cursor have switched to Augment and say it's better.

Seems to me like Augment is an AI tool flying under most people's radar; not sure why it's not all over Hacker News.

[1] https://www.augmentcode.com/

tymscar 2025-09-03 23:28 UTC link
Honestly, I’d love to know why that happens. Can you take a look at the logs? On Mac, you can do it through the Console app, and on Linux, through idevicesyslog.
epolanski 2025-09-03 23:52 UTC link
I now plain hate Cursor's auto complete, it's too aggressive I cannot write any code anymore, it seems to have hijacked CMD too, not just tab.
Shank 2025-09-04 00:09 UTC link
> I don't see why most editors should behave like hand crafted musical instruments when in reality they are much more akin to high quality knives in a kitchen (sure you have your favorite knife set and bring it from job to job, but at the end of the day you can be just as productive with a different knife when necessary).

This is such a poor analogy. Yes, a good chef can make do with a different knife, but there is a reason why chefs pay for significantly higher quality knives, keep them sharpened, and treat them with diligence and care, than other kitchen tools. A blunt knife can actually be dangerous. Consequently, a lot of chefs buy knives that are effectively hand crafted / forged knives out of this relentless pursuit of quality.

> What most of these comments are missing is the attempt at standardization and unification.

> While that may be true and your particular workflow requires certain features, what is overlooked is the survival pressure for editors.

I think your general perception is not something I agree with. I want to use software I enjoy using. Programming is a creative exercise for me, and I want to use the tools I enjoy. If a tool is not enjoyable to use, I do not want to use it. Sometimes, productivity does increase enjoyment, but sometimes it doesn't. For example, arguably I would have been more productive in my Java days if I used Eclipse, but because the editor was so bad, I preferred to learn the APIs myself and use Sublime Text instead.

I also don't think I'm sympathetic to the survival of any particular editor. Software comes and goes, and sustainably built business models will prevail. All of the AI-first editors hinge on this being the right iteration of this technology, and we simply do not have a long enough timeframe or context to know if this is truly the best way to write code using AI. MCP/ACP, whatever else might be the best strategy for now, but I think it's too early for anyone to suggest that we've come to the right conclusion forever.

throw47592 2025-09-04 01:02 UTC link
Zed does have a way to run LLMs without tool calling. From the agent pane, in the menu, select “new text thread”. I believe there’s a keyboard shortcut but I’m on my phone right now.
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Article 23 Work & Equal Pay

No substantive engagement with labor rights or fair work conditions

ND
Article 24 Rest & Leisure

No engagement with right to rest and leisure

ND
Article 25 Standard of Living

No engagement with adequate standard of living or healthcare

ND
Article 26 Education

No engagement with right to education

ND
Article 28 Social & International Order

No engagement with international order or UDHR-respecting systems

ND
Article 30 No Destruction of Rights

No engagement with prohibition of destroying rights

Structural Channel
What the site does
+0.40
Article 19 Freedom of Expression
Medium Advocacy Practice
Structural
+0.40
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
-0.14

Site implements values through open-source licensing under Apache and public availability of protocol adapter, enabling free modification and redistribution

+0.30
Article 27 Cultural Participation
Medium Advocacy Practice
Structural
+0.30
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
-0.12

Site enables participation through open-source model, public protocol repository, and explicit welcome for external contributions

+0.25
Article 29 Duties to Community
Medium Advocacy Practice
Structural
+0.25
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
-0.11

Site structure enables participation through open contribution model and explicit invitation for builders to integrate agents

ND
Preamble Preamble

No structural evidence regarding implementation of preamble principles

ND
Article 1 Freedom, Equality, Brotherhood

No structural evidence regarding freedom or equality

ND
Article 2 Non-Discrimination

No structural evidence regarding discrimination or protected classes

ND
Article 3 Life, Liberty, Security

No structural evidence regarding safety or security

ND
Article 4 No Slavery

No structural evidence regarding slavery or forced labor

ND
Article 5 No Torture

No structural evidence regarding harm or abuse prevention

ND
Article 6 Legal Personhood

No structural evidence regarding legal status recognition

ND
Article 7 Equality Before Law

No structural evidence regarding legal protection

ND
Article 8 Right to Remedy

No structural evidence regarding dispute resolution

ND
Article 9 No Arbitrary Detention

No structural evidence regarding arrest or detention

ND
Article 10 Fair Hearing

No structural evidence regarding judicial processes

ND
Article 11 Presumption of Innocence

No structural evidence regarding criminal procedure

ND
Article 12 Privacy

No structural evidence regarding privacy protection

ND
Article 13 Freedom of Movement

No structural evidence regarding movement or travel

ND
Article 14 Asylum

No structural evidence regarding asylum or refuge

ND
Article 15 Nationality

No structural evidence regarding nationality

ND
Article 16 Marriage & Family

No structural evidence regarding family matters

ND
Article 17 Property

No structural evidence regarding property

ND
Article 18 Freedom of Thought

No structural evidence regarding conscience or belief

ND
Article 20 Assembly & Association

No structural evidence regarding assembly or association

ND
Article 21 Political Participation

No structural evidence regarding governance participation

ND
Article 22 Social Security

No structural evidence regarding social security

ND
Article 23 Work & Equal Pay

No structural evidence regarding labor practices

ND
Article 24 Rest & Leisure

No structural evidence regarding rest or leisure

ND
Article 25 Standard of Living

No structural evidence regarding welfare or health

ND
Article 26 Education

No structural evidence regarding educational access

ND
Article 28 Social & International Order

No structural evidence regarding international order

ND
Article 30 No Destruction of Rights

No structural evidence regarding rights destruction

Supplementary Signals
Epistemic Quality
0.62
Propaganda Flags
1 techniques detected
bandwagon
Multiple identical or near-identical developer quotes ('Claude Code integration', 'Waiting for Claude Code integration', 'when Claude Code?') presented twice in sequence, creating social proof effect of universal demand
Solution Orientation
No data
Emotional Tone
No data
Stakeholder Voice
No data
Temporal Framing
No data
Geographic Scope
No data
Complexity
No data
Transparency
No data
Event Timeline 20 events
2026-02-26 12:19 dlq Dead-lettered after 1 attempts: Claude Code: Now in Beta in Zed - -
2026-02-26 12:18 rate_limit OpenRouter rate limited (429) model=llama-3.3-70b - -
2026-02-26 12:16 rate_limit OpenRouter rate limited (429) model=llama-3.3-70b - -
2026-02-26 12:15 rate_limit OpenRouter rate limited (429) model=llama-3.3-70b - -
2026-02-26 09:29 dlq Dead-lettered after 1 attempts: Claude Code: Now in Beta in Zed - -
2026-02-26 09:19 credit_exhausted Credit balance too low, retrying in 274s - -
2026-02-26 07:25 dlq Dead-lettered after 1 attempts: Claude Code: Now in Beta in Zed - -
2026-02-26 07:24 dlq Dead-lettered after 1 attempts: Claude Code: Now in Beta in Zed - -
2026-02-26 07:24 dlq Dead-lettered after 1 attempts: Claude Code: Now in Beta in Zed - -
2026-02-26 07:21 dlq Dead-lettered after 1 attempts: Claude Code: Now in Beta in Zed - -
2026-02-26 07:21 dlq Dead-lettered after 1 attempts: Claude Code: Now in Beta in Zed - -
2026-02-26 07:16 dlq Dead-lettered after 1 attempts: Claude Code: Now in Beta in Zed - -
2026-02-26 07:15 dlq Dead-lettered after 1 attempts: Claude Code: Now in Beta in Zed - -
2026-02-26 07:15 credit_exhausted Credit balance too low, retrying in 319s - -
2026-02-26 07:13 dlq Dead-lettered after 1 attempts: Claude Code: Now in Beta in Zed - -
2026-02-26 07:12 dlq Dead-lettered after 1 attempts: Claude Code: Now in Beta in Zed - -
2026-02-26 07:12 credit_exhausted Credit balance too low, retrying in 351s - -
2026-02-26 07:12 credit_exhausted Credit balance too low, retrying in 355s - -
2026-02-26 07:11 dlq Dead-lettered after 1 attempts: Claude Code: Now in Beta in Zed - -
2026-02-26 07:10 credit_exhausted Credit balance too low, retrying in 339s - -
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build 1686d6e+53hr · deployed 2026-02-26 10:15 UTC · evaluated 2026-02-26 12:13:57 UTC