+0.40 Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering system (hackaday.com S:+0.25 )
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HN Discussion 20 top-level · 30 replies
jsheard 2024-09-12 15:28 UTC link
Unfortunate that they didn't make it compatible with genuine Hakko or JBC tips like many of the no-name knock-off soldering stations are, but I suppose being based in the US they might be wary of violating the design patents of those companies.

Anyway it's good to have an option that's cheaper than the big names but presumably built to a higher standard than an AliExpress special, and has an actual warranty and safety certifications.

nightpool 2024-09-12 15:30 UTC link
I hear https://github.com/google/web-serial-polyfill gets used a fair amount on Android devices, so that might be one road you could go down. Additionally, I can't imagine it would be that hard would it be to build a mobile app that could provide a WebSerial interface to a friendly webview of your choosing. You'd need the user to download an app, but then you could use the same code for both web and app versions.
riedel 2024-09-12 15:33 UTC link
Looks much like the pinecil [0] (which I love btw if I have no acess to decent equipment) but with Webinterface ?!? Love the look though.

[0] https://pine64.com/product/pinecil-smart-mini-portable-solde...

alnwlsn 2024-09-12 15:37 UTC link
Well done! I'm mostly a TS100 user, so I'm looking at it from that angle.

Why no boost button (unless I missed it)? That's the one on-iron UI feature I'd be missing - very useful for GND planes. I'm guessing its not a matter of rated power, but just the thermal resistance from the physical size of the tip which restricts heat entering into a heavily-heatsinked joint. Helpful to increase the iron temperature momentarily for such cases. Then again, I can't see heat transfer - happy to be told I'm wrong.

Is this your own tip design or is it the same as the TS80? Can't speak to the TS80 but I've found the TS100 tip quality to be somewhat lacking (I've had tips plainly break off before).

systemtest 2024-09-12 15:41 UTC link
I really appreciate that iFixit made the schematics publicly available, unlike a certain other right-to-repair advocate.
dlevine 2024-09-12 15:51 UTC link
I paid ~$100 for my Hakko FX888D, and have had had that for almost 10 years. Looking on the Internet, the price hasn't gone up much. Not sure whether this (for $250 including the power supply) is a class above that. The repairability is a definite plus (assuming parts continue to be available for many years), and all the nerdy features are also cool, but not sure how useful they will be in the real world.
BugsJustFindMe 2024-09-12 16:01 UTC link
> The accelerometer detects when you pick it up and heats it back up.

I don't want this. I would rather push a button and wait for a light to turn on. Automatic off, fine, I guess, though I don't love it and would never want to rely on it. Automatic on, no way.

atoav 2024-09-12 16:14 UTC link
100W via TRS 3.5mm connector? I checked and I didn't even find a power rating for these connectors, but that seems excessive.
syntaxing 2024-09-12 16:22 UTC link
Overall a great idea, though not a fan that you can’t directly change the temperature on the soldering iron without the power station.
thesh4d0w 2024-09-12 16:22 UTC link
The 100w and heat resistant storage caps are nice, but that battery pack pricing and the lack of on-device controls makes this not an option for me.

$110 cad for the soldering iron is semi-reasonable, if a bit high compared to their competitors. $342 for the iron + battery means that's a $230 battery pack, which is absolutely insane.

Requiring the battery pack to be able to easily change controls means anyone doing more than super basic work, needs the $342 combo.

dvh 2024-09-12 16:23 UTC link
If you feel like $80 is too much, I recently bought $6 temperature regulated soldering iron (model 908S) on AliExpress and it has no problem soldering even LQFP-48 or MSOP-10 packages.
madeofpalk 2024-09-12 16:28 UTC link
Interesting that new products are shipping 'relying' Web Serial, given it's tenuous position as a web standard.
cruffle_duffle 2024-09-12 16:31 UTC link
Soldering is one of those things where the tools you use have a direct impact on the quality and enjoyment of the work. Shitty $20 soldering irons from Home Depot not only produce awful results but they are incredibly frustrating. I’m pretty sure most people who think they suck at soldering and hate it only feel that way because their tool sucks. A good quality soldering iron and high quality, thin solder make a huge, huge difference in output.

If your experience with soldering is one of those cheap flimsy $30 dollar things from Amazon paired with fat, chunky solder… yeah you will hate soldering and you’ll never get even remotely good results. You don’t need to spend $500 dollar or anything but something like what is in this post and a $40 roll of thin gauge solder (which will last the rest of your life) will make soldering actually fun and enjoyable.

…I should also mention a solid, heavy parts holder factors into this as well.

mrandish 2024-09-12 16:39 UTC link
After a quick look at the specs:

Plus

* 5 secs to temp. * Heat resistant, vented cap. * User can change auto idle and sleep times.

Minus

* Need iFixit power station or computer to change temp and other settings. * No temp indicator on the iron. No mention if the LED indicates it's reached set temp.

I'd love to keep a small, lightweight, high-quality portable iron in my tool bag ready for quick repairs. It needs to heat fast and be instantly capped and tossed back in the tool bag without waiting for cool down. However, I don't want to carry the iFixit power bank in my small tool bag. Yet without it, I'd need to pull out a laptop to change temp. And I do need to change temp enough for that to be annoying. Especially when there USB irons which have temp readouts and controls on the device. While cheap, those irons generally don't get to temp in 5 secs, have a well-thought out heat resistant cap and aren't high-quality.

adolph 2024-09-12 16:41 UTC link
This is a really beautiful system. The pen-cap style cover is great. The Lamy Safari style cap clip that uses the lugs on the battery to become the holder is inspired. (see 0 for better view than the linked article's picture)

If this was available back when I got a Pinecil and PowerWheels Ryobi adapter [1], I would have been severely tempted to spend 400% more.

0. https://www.ifixit.com/products/fixhub-soldering-toolkit

1. https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/Pinecil_Power_Supplies#Tool_Bat...

Ancapistani 2024-09-12 16:58 UTC link
This looks cool, and I'd buy one if I needed one... but I already have a full-sized soldering station and a Pinecil.

The station has a hot air gun and a solder vacuum, so it's far more suitable for use on the bench due to those capabilities.

The Pinecil plugs into the Anker power bank that I carry with me everywhere anyhow, and runs basically forever on it. The UI took a day or so to get used to, but it's simple and straightforward enough for field use. I've even used it for bigger jobs on trucks and tractors in the past, and it didn't miss a beat.

ryukafalz 2024-09-12 17:27 UTC link
Any plans to make a hot tweezer tip for this? It's hard to come by those for a reasonable price and that would be very appealing since I've often found myself needing to desolder surface-mount components.

I was initially skeptical about the cap vs. a traditional stand until I saw that it mounts to the side of the battery pack to double as a stand. I like that idea!

Also, is there documentation on the serial protocol used in case someone wanted to write a temperature control program that didn't rely on a webapp?

CarVac 2024-09-12 20:42 UTC link
As a gamecube controller modder who uses a TS101 on the go, the handle isn't such a bad deal. I paid the same price for the TS101 bundled with a barrel jack power supply that I never use. The short tip-to-grip distance seems nice, and the higher power is good.

But the full station price is kind of outrageous. I got my Thermaltronics TMT-2000S for less, and that's a monster. But then again, I don't have to use their battery, I can use my $70 Ugreen one.

My one concern about the cap is: I worry that someone with bad depth perception will poke their hand with a hot iron when trying to cap it...

johnwalkr 2024-09-12 21:56 UTC link
I have been a huge advocate of the pinecil and haven't used anything else in years. It's just so easy to grab my pinecil and temporarily use my laptop's power supply for the iron, or use a mobile battery, instead of moving myself and the things I am working on to the location of my soldering station. These look like upgrades compared to pinecil:

- comfier grip

- shorter tip length and presumably a more solid feel (the pinecil's mechanical interface to the tip is pretty loose-feeling)

- higher power over usb-c (actually can't think of a time I've needed more than 60W for hobby stuff, but I can imagine use cases like large ground planes)

- storage cap (this is a major improvement for working in a temporary, tight space)

All of these would be worth the price increase over pinecil, but unfortunately I think the lack of on-iron temperature settings is a dealbreaker. The pinecil in my toolbag is practically the size of a sharpie and works with my existing usb-c cables and batteries with no extra space taken up, and the killer feature (portability) is broken once you need a proprietary battery or a laptop to change temperature.

scottbez1 2024-09-12 15:47 UTC link
Yeah, boost button was a huge step up when I got my TS100 and now I can't imagine ever buying a new iron without it.

Plus, not having the ability to quickly tune temperature settings on the iron itself seems like a step back as well.

I'd be happy to be proven wrong on these, as iFixit's screwdriver sets were one of those things I needed to use to understand the hype (and then promptly bought my own set), so maybe this is another case of subtle quality you have to see for yourself?

kwiens 2024-09-12 15:50 UTC link
We'll have a range of tips. Hitting the high performance we wanted, with 100 Watt output in a small iron, required really optimizing the entire system. The heating element and temperature sensor are in the tip itself.

We really see JBC as our competition here. Performance and responsiveness should be comparable or better, at a fraction of the price.

kwiens 2024-09-12 15:53 UTC link
It's our own design, although clearly inspired by those who came before.

I'm really happy with their quality, but you'll have to judge that for yourself.

We're handling the boosting automatically in software. When the iron detects that it's under load, it maxxes out the power to the tip. It's incredibly responsive.

You're right, where you want that is with high thermal mass objects like ground planes. The difficult part is getting enough of a thermal bridge onto the material to really let the iron rip. It can dump a lot of power into a joint.

jsheard 2024-09-12 15:55 UTC link
The FX888 is an older style iron where the tip and heating element are separate components, the newer generation (such as this iFixit one) have the tip, heater and temperature sensor integrated as a single component which allows them to regulate the tip temperature much faster and more accurately. Hakko does make irons of that type now but they're very expensive, up in the $500 range.

Another benefit of the newer style irons is the tip can usually be hot-swapped (literally while it's still hot) without having to unscrew anything, you just need something insulating to pull the tip out with.

anamexis 2024-09-12 15:56 UTC link
Only $80 for the iron itself though, compatible with any USB-C PD power supply.
scottbez1 2024-09-12 15:59 UTC link
It will almost certainly be a class up, if only because it uses integrated tips that combine heating element, temperature sensor, and tip itself into a single element, rather than having thermally bulky and inefficient interfaces like the FX888d's replaceable separate tips. So you get faster heating and more accurate temperature control.

But there's the rub: there are a TON of USB-C irons that use integrated tips, and most are cheaper than this new iFixit iron, so you can get that class improvement for the same price as your Hakko station, so I'm curious if their improvements are a big enough step up from _those_ irons to justify the price.

kwiens 2024-09-12 16:05 UTC link
By default, the timer is set to 30 seconds. You can turn the whole feature off, and it'll never bother you again!
gs17 2024-09-12 16:05 UTC link
They compare the two in the article:

>The star of the show is, of course, the Smart Soldering Iron. It’s a 100 watt iron that comes up to operating temperature in under five seconds and can work with any suitably beefy USB-C Power Delivery source. The size and general proportions of the iron are very close to the Pinecil V2, though the grip is larger and considerably more comfortable to hold. The biggest difference between the two however is the absence of a display or configuration buttons. According to iFixit, most users don’t change their settings enough to justify putting the interface on the iron itself. That doesn’t mean you can’t tweak the iron’s settings when used in this stand-alone configuration, but we’ll get back to that in a minute.

scottbez1 2024-09-12 16:15 UTC link
Oh interesting, I'll have to try that polyfill - I've been using web serial for all my projects lately because I hate users having to install anything, but Android has been an annoying gap.
rcarmo 2024-09-12 16:24 UTC link
That's a no-go for me then.
kwiens 2024-09-12 16:28 UTC link
You can set the temperature on the iron with our web console, which uses Web Serial: https://www.ifixit.com/fixhub/console

Once you set the temperature, the iron remembers it and you can use any power source.

We've spent a lot of time talking to engineers and makers who solder all day, and it turns out that most people rarely change the temperature. Pick a temperature you like and leave it there.

Our heating algorithm detects and dynamically responds to load, so you don't need to turn the temperature up for larger thermal masses: it'll add as many joules as required to get it to temperature.

omgtehlion 2024-09-12 16:33 UTC link
Pinecil can not deliver actual 100w, and most chinese type-c handles can neither. This one uses real buck converter which can help with this problem.
myrmidon 2024-09-12 16:40 UTC link
For tools that you use regularly, it is sometimes worth it to take a step back, put the cost into an absolute perspective and then just get the thing if you know that it's well-made and you use it regularly, instead of getting a cheapish, price-optimized knockoff instead (my experience).

I spent over 200$ on a glorified PCB holder and some probes (PCBite), which is in hindsight one of the most useful tools I own and still makes me happy every time I use it (even that alone is kinda worth it over time!).

I don't know your financial situation, but just consider: How much do you spend each month on meals/entertainment? Is $300 actually an inappropriate cost for a quality thing that you often need?

Note: Iron + station shows up as $250 to me, $350 is the set with some additional bits and bobs.

kwiens 2024-09-12 16:40 UTC link
Very interesting, I will check that out!

And yes, if it seems like mobile browsers don't plan to add support then we'll have to look at wrapping it in a native app.

I'm hopeful that smartphones will start supporting higher power output from their USB-C ports. The iPhone does 4.5W right now, which is (barely) enough to melt solder, but not enough to do anything with.

dghlsakjg 2024-09-12 16:42 UTC link
Look up the Sequre S99 soldering iron. Basically what you are looking for.
w4rh4wk5 2024-09-12 16:46 UTC link
I do have a TS100 which I use either with a battery pack or a wall charger. For storing it, I am using a metal casing that is used for a single cigar. There's also room for a tiny metal cleaning brush which protects the tip during storage. Given that all of this is metal and that the soldering iron doesn't have that much thermal capacity, I can pack it up while the tip is still hot and the casing will only get mildly warm, but not to the point where it'd cause damage.
kwiens 2024-09-12 16:48 UTC link
Google depends on it for firmware updates and repairs on the Pixel lineup. https://pixelrepair.withgoogle.com
zerocrates 2024-09-12 16:51 UTC link
Where are you seeing a TRS connector? Looks like it's USB-C everywhere to me...
kwiens 2024-09-12 16:52 UTC link
We designed the system to work for people at a variety of price points.

If you just buy the iron, you have access to all the settings in our web console: https://www.ifixit.com/fixhub/console

The iron persists settings when you unplug it. You can change the sleep timer and timeout, set target temperatures, calibrate the accelerometer, and more.

The Power Station is nice to have, but you don't lose any functionality without it.

kwiens 2024-09-12 16:55 UTC link
The LED on the iron turns orange once it reaches your target temperature. It glows purple while it's heating, and blue when it's safe to touch.
fecal_henge 2024-09-12 16:56 UTC link
The twist is that the TRS is the heating element.
mrWiz 2024-09-12 16:59 UTC link
Weller uses TRS too. In my experience the connection is a little flaky, but I don’t know the provenance of the lab irons I’ve used; it wouldn’t surprise me if they’ve been abused.

https://www.weller-tools.com/us/en/industrial-soldering/prod...

shawndrost 2024-09-12 17:01 UTC link
A ring light indicates if it's reached set temp.
talldayo 2024-09-12 17:16 UTC link
You're correct that some soldering irons (especially uber-cheap ones) are shit, but Pinecil proves cheap can also be good. Past a certain point, soldering becomes a hobby about how dangerous you're willing to get to make things easier on yourself. You can swap out non-toxic solder for lead trace if you want a cleaner board; then there are high-wattage irons, board reflow/fluxing, and even all sorts of scale-specific hacks.

When you zoom out, I think home soldering is about as effective as it can reasonably get without fumigating your house.

LeifCarrotson 2024-09-12 17:19 UTC link
Agreed. There's a place for open, smart tools. Some things want to have serial interfaces and sensors and so on, that will do a whole host of actions automatically.

Other times you just want the equivalent of a drill or toaster. Pull trigger, drill spins. Twist chuck or shift gearbox, it slips or changes speeds. Push toast down, it toasts, twist the dial if you want darker or lighter.

An on/off switch, a potentiometer or 7-segment and some buttons to set temp, and a nice, fast, powerful PID loop to control the temperature (with a 120V AC cable to make 100W all day not a problem) is all I want in a soldering iron. I have a combination soldering/hot air station that's almost 20 years old, it just always works.

kwiens 2024-09-12 17:25 UTC link
auxym 2024-09-12 17:54 UTC link
Same, the first thing I looked for is what tip it uses.

I want to like the miniware, pine, etc irons, but I'd really like being able to buy T15 tips from my local electronics supplier, who carries Hakko.

If the product isn't sucessful and/or ifixit stops producing tips for whatever reason, a perfectly good iron is effectively bricked.

6SixTy 2024-09-12 17:56 UTC link
Even compatibility with TS100/Pinecil V2 tips would be better. TS100 is meant to be open source, and the Pinecil V2 tips are just shorter with a different resistance.
wvenable 2024-09-12 18:54 UTC link
I have something like this on a TS100 and it works fine. You set it down for a while because you're still soldering but you need to move stuff and it reduces the heat. Then you pick it back up and by the time you've gotten to part it's already back up the temp.

How is that worse than it just being full temp the whole time?

FuriouslyAdrift 2024-09-12 19:15 UTC link
Be interesting to see how this stacks up to a good entry level iron like the Hakko FX-888DX.

https://hakkousa.com/fx-888dx.html

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Context Modifier
ND
SETL
+0.14

Review documents leisure applications of tool.

0.00
Article 2 Non-Discrimination
Low
Structural
0.00
Context Modifier
ND
SETL
ND

No structural discrimination in platform or access.

ND
Article 3 Life, Liberty, Security

Not engaged by product review.

ND
Article 4 No Slavery

Not engaged by product review.

ND
Article 5 No Torture

Not engaged by product review.

ND
Article 6 Legal Personhood

Not engaged by product review.

ND
Article 7 Equality Before Law

Not engaged by product review.

ND
Article 8 Right to Remedy

Not engaged by product review.

ND
Article 9 No Arbitrary Detention

Not engaged by product review.

ND
Article 10 Fair Hearing

Not engaged by product review.

ND
Article 11 Presumption of Innocence

Not engaged by product review.

ND
Article 13 Freedom of Movement

Not engaged by product review.

ND
Article 14 Asylum

Not engaged by product review.

ND
Article 15 Nationality

Not engaged by product review.

ND
Article 16 Marriage & Family

Not engaged by product review.

ND
Article 20 Assembly & Association

Comments section enables community assembly and discussion.

ND
Article 21 Political Participation

Not engaged by product review.

ND
Article 28 Social & International Order

Not directly engaged by product review.

ND
Article 29 Duties to Community

Not engaged by product review.

ND
Article 30 No Destruction of Rights

Not engaged by product review.

Supplementary Signals
Epistemic Quality
0.81 medium claims
Sources
0.8
Evidence
0.8
Uncertainty
0.8
Purpose
0.8
Propaganda Flags
2 techniques detected
loaded language
Hell yeah they do!
exaggeration
iFixit didn't just raise the bar, they sent it into orbit
Solution Orientation
0.68 solution oriented
Reader Agency
0.7
Emotional Tone
celebratory
Valence
+0.8
Arousal
0.7
Dominance
0.5
Stakeholder Voice
0.68 4 perspectives
Speaks: individualsinstitutioncommunity
About: consumershobbyistscorporationsworkers
Temporal Framing
present short term
Geographic Scope
global
USA
Complexity
moderate medium jargon domain specific
Transparency
0.75
✓ Author ✓ Conflicts ✗ Funding
Audit Trail 1 entries
2026-02-28 09:19 eval Evaluated by claude-haiku-4-5-20251001: +0.38 (Moderate positive)