875 points by yread 3797 days ago | 949 comments on HN
| Neutral Editorial · v3.7· 2026-02-28 09:48:47
Summary Digital Access & Economic Opportunity Acknowledges
This corporate product announcement from Microsoft describes new Windows 10 devices and celebrates platform adoption (110+ million devices). The content implicitly engages human rights through developer economic opportunity, accessible platform design, and cultural services, but remains primarily marketing-focused without explicit human rights framing. Structural privacy concerns (Google Tag Manager tracking without clear consent disclosure) offset positive aspects of open access and educational platform design.
I think they've pulled the rug from under other HW vendors, and that is well-deserved (for the vendors). MS essentially made the ultimate Windows PC (tablet, pen, long battery life, powerful GPU if needed), after waiting for the partners for years.
In closed state, the surface book has a giant gap between screen and keyboard (https://goo.gl/n5B7Te). I think, it can easily happen that things in your backpack slip between screen and keyboard and damage the screen. That is why the old Thinkpads used to have a "click" mechanism.
That was an epic launch. Docking the phone and using desktop apps, and then the removable Surface Book screen, wow. It eclipsed the Surface Pro 4 launch, which is what I expect most people were most hyped about. I have to go back and remind myself what changed there...
I have been skeptical after a lot of Microsoft misses but the Surface Book Pro might just put Microsoft on the high road. Splitting up the hardware breaks new ground. If I understood it correctly, the GPU is in the keyboard which you can attach to get more power. In detached mode the screen itself has an i7 processor that's plenty powerful. So they managed to let you hot-plug the GPU while the OS is running?
As a Surface Pro 3 user, who saves a Macbook Pro for heavy lifting (like video) at home, I can safely say the MB is getting replaced with the Surface Book. Depending on in-person use, it might also replace the Surface Pro 3. I typically watch Apple's and Google's product launches, have to to say this event was concise and unveiled products in a great forward moving momentum. Solid work Msoft marketing team!
I think this device really shows the different approaches of Apple and Microsoft to "tablets".
When the iPad Pro was announced, many joked about the fact that it was just like a surface. With the release of this device from Microsoft, the look even more similar then before from the outside.
Still, the huge difference in the approach is the software. Microsoft is bending a computer operating system, with a full hardware keyboard and an interface made mainly to be used with a mouse, to adapt to touch and the use of a tablet. Apple instead is slowly expanding the functionality of a pure touch operating system that reject the idea of a mouse and a cursor entirely, to accommodate more computer uses, adding a keyboard and a pencil.
Page looks bad and it loads so slow! At some point, the msdn pages were awesomely fast and I would've imagined they spent more time on load testing for such a crucial day.
That aside, the product looks very interesting. I was a Windows user for a long time and switched to Mac in the last few years. This makes me want to give the newbie a try.
What Microsoft has done today is prove they're very focused about providing a top of the line personal computing experience. You can argue about server, but when it comes to applications (which are floating windows), Microsoft Windows has proven they can keep that title for their operating system.
I'm glad to see them take ownership over the hardware. That has always been the black mark. I build my own PCs and always bought ThinkPad to keep the good experience. Now, Microsoft can help others who don't or can't do that.
That's what the OEMs get for not being able to put out a laptop that could compete with Apple in all those years, they always managed to introduce some fatal flaw in their premium laptops, from weird keyboard layouts to bad fan management software.
Let's hope the Surface Book will be succesful and Apple finally gets serious competition in the premium laptop market.
One advantage that Microsoft has is better cloud services and integrated apps. I am typing this on a MacBook, but I use Office 365, and all of the cloud services and apps run just fine also on my Android phone and iPad. Perversely, Microsoft supports Linux very well: I find the web versions of the Office 365 apps useful on my Linux laptops and I use Linux VPSs on Azure.
The Surface Book blows me away. It looks like it covers all use cases except for a phone.
Apple has their advantages, primarily most people love Apple devices. They just need to improve their cloud services.
Google's huge advantage is their AI based systems. Google Now has no real competition right now.
I am almost 65, and even though I enjoy running a machine learning/AI consultancy, I am transitioning to a more complete retirement. I am looking for a "winner" in the digital life space, adopt their products, and make my leisure years simpler. But, Microsoft, Apple, and Google blow me away with their products and choosing will be difficult.
Since the live event looks done now, we've picked (what I think is?) the most significant product URL to change to from http://www.microsoft.com/october2015event/en-us/live-event. If anyone suggests a better URL we can change it again.
I can't believe I'm seriously considering buying a Microsoft product. But, this is a really nice looking laptop, and I suspect does not fall prey to all of the bullshit that is so common on Windows laptops, even high end ones.
If it were possible to dual boot to Linux, I'd be sold. I have my doubts that it is, however. I guess one could use a VM...I've always found that clumsy in the past, particularly in terms of getting accelerated graphics drivers working, but maybe times have changed.
When I got my first MacBook back in 2008, it was a revolution for me. The industrial design, the multitouch trackpad that actually worked 100% of the time, the backlit keyboard, the battery life, the trackpad-friendly OS -- these all worked together to make me wonder how other laptop manufacturers had got it so astoundingly wrong.
I haven't had that feeling since then. Sure, the MacBook Air came out and it was amazingly thin. Now there's Force Touch, and that's quite nice as well. But this whole time I've just been waiting for somebody, Apple or not, to blow me away the same way I was blown away ~8 years ago, to do something that makes you wonder how everyone else got it so wrong.
Is this that moment? I don't know, but it might be.
Linux does not support hybrid graphics properly. (I've got a Zbook G2, dockable, Nvidia + Intel. I'm developing for Linux, so it'd be great to run Linux on it, but it's not practical at all.)
Credit to Panos and everyone who put that together, I didn't see the removable screen coming. That was the kind of "one more thing" moment that rivals Apple at their best showmanship.
My thoughts exactly. To me, OS/X's quality has been slipping, but I haven't found any non-Apple hardware that's comparable. If they get the trackpad and keyboard right on it, this will open a lot of interesting doors.
I run Linux on a VM inside my Surface Pro 2. Best of both worlds. All the touch and pen gestures are handled by Windows and carry over through VirtualBox.
Would love to get a Surface Book as soon as possible.
I spent about 1 hour in the Microsoft Store playing with the SP3. I loved toying with it, but I knew that if I wanted to use it for serious software development I would probably dock it with a real keyboard. The Surface Book seems to be the answer. Truly amazing.
I would imagine that they're using some pretty strong magnets to hold it closed, although I can see small sharp objects, like keys, sliding in from the sides.
> So they managed to let you hot-plug the GPU while the OS is running?
Is that news? I think I've seen similar setup with ExpressCard-based PCIe adapters for desktop graphics cards for a few years now. Thunderbolt also has had hotplug PCIe connections from the beginning. (Less elegant, of course, but the same engineering challenge.)
I had a long discussion a few weeks ago with some friends about how in the short term, Apple messed up with iOS/OS X while Microsoft took the hard, long, correct route and made the OS work in both places.
This was after the launch of the iPad Pro which is xbox-huge. I was imagining a product which was a MacBook "Base" which you could connect an iPad to as the 'screen' - except you'd have two different OSes that you'd have to cover. It's not exactly a product that fits anywhere in Apple's lineup.
This Microsoft thing is exactly what I was envisioning. You have a solid base which can include a GPU and more battery life and a detachable screen that works as a tablet. Brilliant!
> I think, it can easily happen that things in your backpack slip between screen and keyboard and damage the screen.
Most laptop-designed backpacks have a padded compartment designed to hold just the laptop; if there aren't other things in that compartment, then that shouldn't be an issue. (If there are, and they aren't the kind of small, loose things that could slip between the screen and keyboard, same thing.)
> That is why the old Thinkpads used to have a "click" mechanism.
I always thought the click-locking mechanism on most older laptops (not just old Thinkpads) was there to reduce the wear on the hinge.
They're trying, they're moving in the right direction, but it's still a ways away. Some nice things recently:
- The console host application on Windows 10 finally doesn't suck. Resizeable, copy-paste supported, word wrap text selection, etc.
- It seems like they're trying to make their dev tools use a lot less "black box magic", the kind that that's wonderful when it works right and impossible to debug when it goes wrong. At an ASP.NET workshop recently, Scott Hanselman went to great pains to emphasize that everything he was doing in the VS GUI could also be done from the command line.
- Nuget keeps improving. It's still not a replacement for apt or even Homebrew, but they're listening to feedback and making the changes people request. I feel like in another year or so it could be a real contender.
I use Windows as a desktop but have it host a VirtualBox Linux VM for my real work because I don't find either Windows or OSX acceptable for serious Linux development. OSX is actually more insidious because it sort of looks like Linux and makes you think it just about can be Linux, but it's just not.
Under VirtualBox my development environment can match my production environment almost completely. There's no awkward "but here's how you do it in Windows/OSX" that mostly works but often doesn't in some subtle way. I haven't tried Windows 10 yet but this setup has worked very well under Windows 7 and 8.1 so I expect it will be fine under 10 since it's just an evolution. I've used this setup in OSX and Windows and it goes more smoothly in Windows.
One of the keys to it is that you use SMB to mount your VM disk as a local drive to the host, so you get the benefit of any Windows editor.
Came here to say the same thing about load time - I'm on a fast connection using Chrome and this thing will hardly load for me. I thought it was my ad blocker at first, but nope, just the site. Also tested it with Firefox and Safari and got the same thing.
EDIT: someone below said the CDN might be on the fritz, so that likely has something to do with this. it may be fixed by the time some people see these comments.
Microsoft isn't bending anything. Windows 10 has two distinct APIs for different types of program. The old Win32 API handles traditional desktop software and the separate Windows Runtime is used for sandboxed apps that can be installed and updated from the Windows Store.
If you're writing for Windows Runtime, you are as fully touch-enabled as you are with an iPad, and the apps run in a similar way.
The complaints about Windows 8 were that the two environments were disparate. Windows 10 does a reasonable job of integrating Runtime apps for desktop users (eg scaleable windows and mouse control options). It could do with further improvements, but it's still being developed.
If you're, say, a photographer, you can use full-strength Photoshop, Lightroom etc on Windows 10 then switch to an iPad-style app for viewing or showing stuff to other people. It's actually very convenient.
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What the content says
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Article 19Freedom of Expression
High A:public_platform P:open_access
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Article demonstrates freedom of expression through direct communication from company leadership to global audience; publicly shares product information and strategic decisions.
FW Ratio: 60%
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Blog post is publicly accessible with no paywall or registration required.
Page includes 'Subscribe to RSS' functionality enabling broad information syndication.
Author (Terry Myerson) directly communicates company vision and decisions to global audience via public platform.
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Public platform infrastructure enables exercise of freedom of expression and information sharing.
Open architecture supports corporate transparency and democratic access to product policy information.
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Article 23Work & Equal Pay
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Article explicitly celebrates developer economic participation: 'developer revenue per download increasing four times since Windows 10 launched.' Platform positioned as enabling fair compensation.
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Text states: 'developer revenue per download increasing four times since Windows 10 launched.'
Article celebrates developer partnerships: 'developers are seeing the benefits.'
Platform explicitly enables economic pathways for developer income through app sales.
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Strong developer revenue growth demonstrates recognition of fair compensation for knowledge work.
Economic platform design supports workers' right to fair payment for labor.
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Article 26Education
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Article extensively discusses 'Windows developers' and developer engagement; Windows Store described as learning platform with '1.25 billion visits'; HoloLens as development learning tool.
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Article repeatedly emphasizes 'Windows developers' and developer ecosystem engagement.
Windows Store described as generating 'over 1.25 billion visits' with new developer tools.
HoloLens announced as tool enabling developers to learn and experiment with new technology.
Page uses semantic HTML (ariaLabel) supporting educational content accessibility.
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Developer platform provides formal and informal learning opportunities for professional development.
Article positions Xbox as entertainment and cultural expression platform; app partnerships include cultural content (Shazam, NASCAR, Flipagram); HoloLens enables scientific innovation.
FW Ratio: 60%
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Xbox One explicitly described as entertainment platform with gaming and backward compatibility.
App partnerships include cultural content providers: Shazam (music), NASCAR (sports), Flipagram (social creativity).
HoloLens introduced as innovation platform enabling new forms of mixed-reality cultural interaction.
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Technology platform enables participation in contemporary cultural and entertainment life.
Scientific innovation emphasis supports technological advancement and human creative expression.
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Article 24Rest & Leisure
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Article describes Microsoft Band 2 as enabling users to 'live healthier and achieve more'; Xbox presented as entertainment and leisure platform.
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Microsoft Band 2 described as enabling users to 'live healthier and achieve more' with fitness apps.
Xbox One presented explicitly for entertainment, gaming, and leisure purposes.
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Article 25Standard of Living
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Article acknowledges affordability: 'Lumia 550, our most affordable 4G LTE smartphone' and references 'low cost budget PCs to premium... hardware.'
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Article emphasizes: 'Lumia 550, our most affordable 4G LTE smartphone running Windows 10.'
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Article 1Freedom, Equality, Brotherhood
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Article 2Non-Discrimination
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Article text does not address non-discrimination.
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Responsive design supports universal access across economic contexts (mobile vs desktop).
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Article 12Privacy
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Article text contains no discussion of privacy rights, data protection, or surveillance practices.
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Google Tag Manager iframe present in page footer: src="https://www.googletagmanager.com/ns.html?id=GTM-MLSXDLQ"
No privacy notice or cookie consent mechanism visible before tracking activation.
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Opening narrative celebrates product launches and company achievements without reference to universal human dignity or rights principles.
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Page announces new Windows 10 devices without mentioning human rights or universal declarations.
Opening statement emphasizes commercial achievements: '110 million devices already running Windows 10.'
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Marketing-first framing prioritizes commercial messaging over human rights contexts.
Absence of preamble-aligned language suggests low salience of dignity and universal principles in content construction.
Page implements third-party privacy opt-out iframe and Google Tag Manager tracking. Observable privacy controls present but tracking infrastructure is extensive.
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Page includes semantic HTML (iframe ariaLabel), CSS layout systems for responsive design. No explicit accessibility statement visible.
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Microsoft corporate blog focused on product updates. Mission of information sharing to technical community implicit but not explicitly stated on page.
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Public access to blog content. No paywall or registration visible. Supports universal access to information.
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Google Tag Manager (GTM-MLSXDLQ) integrated for advertising and behavior tracking. Third-party cookie infrastructure observable.
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Article 2Non-Discrimination
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Article 19Freedom of Expression
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Article 26Education
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Semantic HTML structure with accessible attributes supports educational content accessibility; platform architecture enables diverse learning pathways.
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Platform architecture designed to enable participation in cultural and entertainment life; supports creator and consumer cultural participation.
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Article 23Work & Equal Pay
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Windows Store marketplace infrastructure enables developer participation in app ecosystem; provides mechanisms for fair-value exchange of labor and intellectual property.
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Article 24Rest & Leisure
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Product line includes wellness and entertainment devices explicitly supporting user rest, recreation, and well-being.
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Article 25Standard of Living
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Article 12Privacy
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Google Tag Manager (GTM-MLSXDLQ) integrated in page footer enables third-party behavioral tracking and cookie infrastructure without prominent consent banner or user notice.
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Article 11Presumption of Innocence
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'over 110 million devices already running Windows 10', 'great response from IT professionals', 'people around the world loving Windows 10', 'exciting few weeks ahead'
appeal to authority
Terry Myerson (corporate executive) as author; statement 'I stood on stage in NYC along with members of my team'
flag waving
Celebration of company achievements: 'hottest start in history', 'new era', 'honor of unveiling'
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